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    Default Writer reveals the secret of Rey's characterization. Will Finn get a last name?

    I linked to the article.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas.../#22b2a565776d

    “We think of Star Wars as a fairytale. Two twins: One is sent off to be a farmer and one is sent off to be a princess. Rey is kind of both.”

    Straight from the mouth of the Writer, folks. It's obvious that Rey has no personality so their strategy was to keep giving her Force power ups and cool things associated with other characters. They gave her Luke and Leia's orgin, Chewie, the Falcon, Anakin's chosen one status etc.

    Finn needs to steal a last name. If Rey can do it he can do it. He should call himself Finn Solo
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    In some early TFA materials he sort of did have a last name, although a kind of tongue in cheek one: "John Doe".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    In some early TFA materials he sort of did have a last name, although a kind of tongue in cheek one: "John Doe".
    Rey has Luke's X-Wing and the Falcon and Chewie lol. Can Finn at least have a last name? Knowing Rey she will just figure out a way to take that as well. Man, I still can't believe that was the strategy for the main character. Make her overpowered and keep giving her cool stuff associated with other characters so no one will notice that she has no personality.
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    I actually read somewhere JJ Abrams was a Luke/Leia shipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motherofpearl1 View Post
    I actually read somewhere JJ Abrams was a Luke/Leia shipper.
    Did he cry himself to sleep when he learned that they were siblings?

    But well, must admit, if there is one thing i truly dislike about the OT it's that lame "reveal" in Return of the Jedi. So out of the blue, so ridiculous.

    And so much for the Force really, those force sensitive fools have known each other for years but all of a sudden they are all like "yeah, i have always known it, sure, want some more blue milk?" lol.

    Screw that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter Set View Post
    Did he cry himself to sleep when he learned that they were siblings?

    But well, must admit, if there is one thing i truly dislike about the OT it's that lame "reveal" in Return of the Jedi. So out of the blue, so ridiculous.

    And so much for the Force really, those force sensitive fools have known each other for years but all of a sudden they are all like "yeah, i have always known it, sure, want some more blue milk?" lol.

    Screw that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter Set View Post
    Did he cry himself to sleep when he learned that they were siblings?

    But well, must admit, if there is one thing i truly dislike about the OT it's that lame "reveal" in Return of the Jedi. So out of the blue, so ridiculous.

    And so much for the Force really, those force sensitive fools have known each other for years but all of a sudden they are all like "yeah, i have always known it, sure, want some more blue milk?" lol.

    Screw that.
    There is the scene in EMPIRE where Leia hears Luke through the force and can figure out his location, which was kind of a clue that she was at least force-sensitive. Then again, it's the same movie with the big kiss when Luke is recovering....

    Also Lucas had some story notes for Star Wars that gave the characters a bit of extra background, such as Han basically being an Imperial dropout which was adopted by the EU and later the films, and some of 3PO's backstory was put into the prequels.
    The one about Leia is kind of curious though, it states that she had other siblings who died on Alderaan(!). Then again I'm assuming Bail was intended to be the real father.
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    I think there still a story to be told about Finn becoming more connected to the force and realizing where he is really from before the First Order kidnapped him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KROENEN View Post
    I think there still a story to be told about Finn becoming more connected to the force and realizing where he is really from before the First Order kidnapped him.
    Nah, I think Disney is done with this era. Disney accomplished what they set out to do.

    1. Kill all the original characters but not before a good dose of character assassination, so the new characters look good by comparison.

    2. Make all their sacrifices for nothing.

    3. Make sure that their "Marey" Sue character is the best ever and defeats the evil no one else could defeat. Give her all the iconic stuff associated with other characters so she will become iconic by association.

    4. Make a billion dollars while lowering expectations for the next set of films.
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    I suspect it will continue in comics and books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Nah, I think Disney is done with this era. Disney accomplished what they set out to do.

    1. Kill all the original characters but not before a good dose of character assassination, so the new characters look good by comparison.

    2. Make all their sacrifices for nothing.

    3. Make sure that their "Marey" Sue character is the best ever and defeats the evil no one else could defeat. Give her all the iconic stuff associated with other characters so she will become iconic by association.

    4. Make a billion dollars while lowering expectations for the next set of films.
    It was never reasonable to expect the sequel trilogy to be about the continuing adventures of the original cast. Those actors are way past their prime now, and all of them resented their association franchise and how it overshadowed the rest of their careers, and so their appearances were never going to be more than token fanservice. And obviously there is a degree of self insertion wish fulfillment with Rey, but no more so than with any other action hero, and it's absurd for fanboys to fixate on minor details like how well she can fly a spaceship rather than the actual problem of Daisy Ridley just not being a strong enough performer to carry a film on her own. And Star Wars has always had this problem, due to the insistence on casting unknowns in the lead roles, but at least with the previous films they made sure to give them stronger performers to bounce off of. Ridley just didn't have much chemistry with her supporting cast aside from Adam Driver, and they never went all in on the love story like they probably should have, most likely because they feared too much fan backlash over turning Star Wars in Twilight or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KROENEN View Post
    I think there still a story to be told about Finn becoming more connected to the force and realizing where he is really from before the First Order kidnapped him.
    This franchise wouldn't let him be a jedi, they wouldn't let him hook up with leading lady, and they waited to the very last moment of the last movie to even let Finn sniff at being a good leader. A last name would be a gift from the gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    This franchise wouldn't let him be a jedi, they wouldn't let him hook up with leading lady, and they waited to the very last moment of the last movie to even let Finn sniff at being a good leader. A last name would be a gift from the gods.
    Well apparently the FO Stormtroopers leaving because they are Force-sensitive is turning into a thing (at the Academy screening of the film, JJ, during an audience Q&A, said that Finn was going to spill the beans that he was Force-sensitive). It appears to be a plot point that will lead into why Kylo wanted a clone army (but one with a variety of clones) because then you would not get Force-sensitive troopers. It also sounds like finding these trooper's families will be a plot point.

    I'm sure he'll get a last name in time for it to be tossed aside in favor of a new trilogy of movies in 15-20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    I linked to the article.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas.../#22b2a565776d

    “We think of Star Wars as a fairytale. Two twins: One is sent off to be a farmer and one is sent off to be a princess. Rey is kind of both.”

    Straight from the mouth of the Writer, folks. It's obvious that Rey has no personality so their strategy was to keep giving her Force power ups and cool things associated with other characters. They gave her Luke and Leia's orgin, Chewie, the Falcon, Anakin's chosen one status etc.

    Finn needs to steal a last name. If Rey can do it he can do it. He should call himself Finn Solo
    Oh god, these writers actually think Rey is a proper character. She is a self insert of Kathleen Kennedy. a bland Mary Sue. She is not Luke or Leia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Oh god, these writers actually think Rey is a proper character. She is a self insert of Kathleen Kennedy. a bland Mary Sue. She is not Luke or Leia.
    I liked her in the first two, but they destroyed her character in TROS.
    I was genuinely startled to discover that when she 'died' at the end, I felt nothing.

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