Black Lightning! Jefferson Pierce Appreciation Thread 2020

[Hypestyle]

have there been prose novels written about black lightning yet? If not, hopefully that is something that can happen soon.

[J. D. Guy]

having seen y'alls I think I have an idea on how I want to do my Black Lightning family dynamic

defaults/literal family:
Black Lightning
Thunder
Lightning
Lynn Stewart-Pierce

my idea is based in my idea of Freeland as the metahuman capital of the America, so the Black Lightning family will focus largely on (but not limited to) Metahuman crime in their city. so for my Lightning family, I wanted my roster's niche to largely be Metahumans with elemental based abilities, since Jeff has been described as an elemental from time to time. the Bat family are a collective of ninja detectives, the Arrow family are hunters, trackers and survivalists, the Super family are the powerhouse family, the Flash family are the speedsters and metahumans related to the speedforce; so my Black Lightning family are the elemental and metahuman specialist family. I also wanted to avoid just loading it up full of Outsiders since characters like Katana and Geo-force definitely deserve their own families if we're being honest. lastly, I wanted my picks to be characters that bring something unique to the table and who I felt would also benefit from a new collective

1. Peter Gambi - Gambi is one of the few Alfred-types that I think feels natural. the TV show makes a very strong case for Gambi as a mainstay of the Lightning family in any expanded incarnation.

2. Grace Choi (element: none) I feel Grace is Anissa's most prominent love interest and so should be her Lois Lane/Iris West but more like a partnership than a damsel. so I think it's important that she stays a part of the families inner circle once she and Anissa connect. my Anissa and Jennifer are on the younger side (mid and late teens respectively) so I would have Grace be the same and have her be both a metahuman AND and amazon; her strength and stats being amazonian and her enhanced senses being meta.

3. John Stewart (element: light) - I feel that if we are going to go all-in on expanding the Lightning family and their mythology then they should double down on the Stewart-Pierce familial connection. With his new power ring physiology he is technically a metahuman now, plus he's basically an elemental of the Emotional Spectrum as he can now generate and manipulate the Emotional light at will. by linking their family implicitly it primes both John and Jeff for high profile cosmic and otherworldly teams-ups together and, if they bring in Lightning Lad and Tyroc, it could be the start of a new DC dynasty like the Kent, Wayne, or the West-Allen clans.

4. Duke Thomas (element: sun and shadow) - I feel one of the biggest missed opportunities in Bryan Hill's Outsiders is the chance to have Black Lightning take Duke on as a protege like how he used to have with Static. Pouching Duke from the Batfamily would boost Duke's profile by giving him some distance from the oversaturated Gotham collective and adds a bit more variety to the skillsets of the Lightning family by throwing in a unique and more nuanced element manipulater since Duke's solar powers aren't super straightforward. he can fill a somewhat composite role between Static (his mentorship under Jeff) and Brandon from the TV show (his relationship with Jeff's daughters). I would move Duke and his cousin Jay out of Gotham and base them in Freeland.

5. Jakeem Thunder (element: thunderbolt magic) another protege for Black Lightning similar to Duke. I picked Jakeem because with him now honing his own thunderbolt magic, I feel he needs more connections outside the JSA that'll allow him to grow in autonomy and I felt he'd fit nicely in with Black Lightning since he's always brushed up against magic. the magic he received from the thunderbolt functions as his "element" so to speak and he would act as the direct link between the family and magical threats. I also would retcon him as being related to Lynn and John somehow, maybe a cousin or something.

6. Cyclone/Maxine Hunkel/Red Tornado (element: air) I believe Cyclone and Jeff crossed paths on the All-Star Squadron and I don't think she's been used much in the DC since New 52, so I would reintroduce her as part of the Lightning family as an ally in protecting Freeland (like Azrael or Batwing); alternatively, they could go with the android Red Tornado. by introducing either Cyclone or Red Tornado, that would tie the Red Tornado legacy to the Black Lightning mythos and strengthen the elemental angle for the Lightning family since Red Tornado (I think Maxine too) is straight-up a true blue wind elemental.

7. Amazing-Man (element: any and all) one of the most slept on and forgotten black heroes at DC and I feel his legacy deserves a revival. I would have the Everett family have ties to Freeland, like they were one of first metahumans from the "Green Light experiments" (I'd do like the show and have it be DC's version of the Tuskegee study and the Crack era) in Freeland; explaining why Freeland has a high concentration of metahuman civilizations. I would link the Everett family to the Pierce family by having them both descend from the Green Light experiments and, keeping with the elemental theme, his powers allow him take on the powers of pretty much any element making him a powerhouse within the family dynamic.

family-adjacent
1. Henderson - Jefferson's Commissioner Gordon
2. Blue Devil - Jefferson's partner early in his career and his partner when it comes to magical threats.
3. Painkiller - following the TV show, former villain but eventual ally to the family and love interest for Jennifer. he'll be Freeland's Red Hood, he's the rogue antihero of the collective.
4. LaLa/The Tattoo Man - just like the show but eventually rises up to be a Tobias style kingpin but he's more of a neutral entity who tries to keep the streets in check. occasionally works with Black Lightning as one of the few moral OGs in Freeland but does bump heads with Jeff. Painkiller is his right hand.
5. The remaining Outsiders - I would have Geo-force and Katana regularly work with Black Lightning from their time on the Outsiders. all the Outsiders come to Jeff's aid when need be and are close to the Lightning family.

teams with with certain family members as the focal point

Freeland Freedom Fighters - a team of young heros who fight metahuman trafficking in Freeland: Duke, Jakeem, Anissa, Jennifer, Grace, Painkiller, Cyclone

Black Star - DC's most powerful black duo who deal with the cosmic threats facing Freeland or the earth: Black Lightning & John Stewart.

Black & Blue - the dynamic duo of magic and the occult in and around Freeland: Black Lightning & Blue Devil

Elemental Forces - a team of DC's most powerful elementals: Black Lightning, Cyclone (or Red Tornado), Geo-Force, Fire, Swamp Thing, Mera

There is so much cool detail here! I love all of it!

I especially the awesome touch of incorporating Blue Devil as an adjacent partner/contact to him. The early New 52 story of Black and Blue is super underrated. I loved it, so I'm all for including that into Jefferson's history and backstory and also as a means of introducing new story elements to keep things fresh as needed.

[Shockingjustice]

having seen y'alls I think I have an idea on how I want to do my Black Lightning family dynamic

defaults/literal family:
Black Lightning
Thunder
Lightning
Lynn Stewart-Pierce

my idea is based in my idea of Freeland as the metahuman capital of the America, so the Black Lightning family will focus largely on (but not limited to) Metahuman crime in their city. so for my Lightning family, I wanted my roster's niche to largely be Metahumans with elemental based abilities, since Jeff has been described as an elemental from time to time. the Bat family are a collective of ninja detectives, the Arrow family are hunters, trackers and survivalists, the Super family are the powerhouse family, the Flash family are the speedsters and metahumans related to the speedforce; so my Black Lightning family are the elemental and metahuman specialist family. I also wanted to avoid just loading it up full of Outsiders since characters like Katana and Geo-force definitely deserve their own families if we're being honest. lastly, I wanted my picks to be characters that bring something unique to the table and who I felt would also benefit from a new collective

1. Peter Gambi - Gambi is one of the few Alfred-types that I think feels natural. the TV show makes a very strong case for Gambi as a mainstay of the Lightning family in any expanded incarnation.

2. Grace Choi (element: none) I feel Grace is Anissa's most prominent love interest and so should be her Lois Lane/Iris West but more like a partnership than a damsel. so I think it's important that she stays a part of the families inner circle once she and Anissa connect. my Anissa and Jennifer are on the younger side (mid and late teens respectively) so I would have Grace be the same and have her be both a metahuman AND and amazon; her strength and stats being amazonian and her enhanced senses being meta.

3. John Stewart (element: light) - I feel that if we are going to go all-in on expanding the Lightning family and their mythology then they should double down on the Stewart-Pierce familial connection. With his new power ring physiology he is technically a metahuman now, plus he's basically an elemental of the Emotional Spectrum as he can now generate and manipulate the Emotional light at will. by linking their family implicitly it primes both John and Jeff for high profile cosmic and otherworldly teams-ups together and, if they bring in Lightning Lad and Tyroc, it could be the start of a new DC dynasty like the Kent, Wayne, or the West-Allen clans.

4. Duke Thomas (element: sun and shadow) - I feel one of the biggest missed opportunities in Bryan Hill's Outsiders is the chance to have Black Lightning take Duke on as a protege like how he used to have with Static. Pouching Duke from the Batfamily would boost Duke's profile by giving him some distance from the oversaturated Gotham collective and adds a bit more variety to the skillsets of the Lightning family by throwing in a unique and more nuanced element manipulater since Duke's solar powers aren't super straightforward. he can fill a somewhat composite role between Static (his mentorship under Jeff) and Brandon from the TV show (his relationship with Jeff's daughters). I would move Duke and his cousin Jay out of Gotham and base them in Freeland.

5. Jakeem Thunder (element: thunderbolt magic) another protege for Black Lightning similar to Duke. I picked Jakeem because with him now honing his own thunderbolt magic, I feel he needs more connections outside the JSA that'll allow him to grow in autonomy and I felt he'd fit nicely in with Black Lightning since he's always brushed up against magic. the magic he received from the thunderbolt functions as his "element" so to speak and he would act as the direct link between the family and magical threats. I also would retcon him as being related to Lynn and John somehow, maybe a cousin or something.

6. Cyclone/Maxine Hunkel/Red Tornado (element: air) I believe Cyclone and Jeff crossed paths on the All-Star Squadron and I don't think she's been used much in the DC since New 52, so I would reintroduce her as part of the Lightning family as an ally in protecting Freeland (like Azrael or Batwing); alternatively, they could go with the android Red Tornado. by introducing either Cyclone or Red Tornado, that would tie the Red Tornado legacy to the Black Lightning mythos and strengthen the elemental angle for the Lightning family since Red Tornado (I think Maxine too) is straight-up a true blue wind elemental.

7. Amazing-Man (element: any and all) one of the most slept on and forgotten black heroes at DC and I feel his legacy deserves a revival. I would have the Everett family have ties to Freeland, like they were one of first metahumans from the "Green Light experiments" (I'd do like the show and have it be DC's version of the Tuskegee study and the Crack era) in Freeland; explaining why Freeland has a high concentration of metahuman civilizations. I would link the Everett family to the Pierce family by having them both descend from the Green Light experiments and, keeping with the elemental theme, his powers allow him take on the powers of pretty much any element making him a powerhouse within the family dynamic.

family-adjacent
1. Henderson - Jefferson's Commissioner Gordon
2. Blue Devil - Jefferson's partner early in his career and his partner when it comes to magical threats.
3. Painkiller - following the TV show, former villain but eventual ally to the family and love interest for Jennifer. he'll be Freeland's Red Hood, he's the rogue antihero of the collective.
4. LaLa/The Tattoo Man - just like the show but eventually rises up to be a Tobias style kingpin but he's more of a neutral entity who tries to keep the streets in check. occasionally works with Black Lightning as one of the few moral OGs in Freeland but does bump heads with Jeff. Painkiller is his right hand.
5. The remaining Outsiders - I would have Geo-force and Katana regularly work with Black Lightning from their time on the Outsiders. all the Outsiders come to Jeff's aid when need be and are close to the Lightning family.

teams with with certain family members as the focal point

Freeland Freedom Fighters - a team of young heros who fight metahuman trafficking in Freeland: Duke, Jakeem, Anissa, Jennifer, Grace, Painkiller, Cyclone

Black Star - DC's most powerful black duo who deal with the cosmic threats facing Freeland or the earth: Black Lightning & John Stewart.

Black & Blue - the dynamic duo of magic and the occult in and around Freeland: Black Lightning & Blue Devil

Elemental Forces - a team of DC's most powerful elementals: Black Lightning, Cyclone (or Red Tornado), Geo-Force, Fire, Swamp Thing, Mera

That's by far one of the coolest ideas I've heard. I don't get how fans can be so much more supportive of a character than the company that created the character.

[Shockingjustice]

having seen y'alls I think I have an idea on how I want to do my Black Lightning family dynamic

defaults/literal family:
Black Lightning
Thunder
Lightning
Lynn Stewart-Pierce

my idea is based in my idea of Freeland as the metahuman capital of the America, so the Black Lightning family will focus largely on (but not limited to) Metahuman crime in their city. so for my Lightning family, I wanted my roster's niche to largely be Metahumans with elemental based abilities, since Jeff has been described as an elemental from time to time. the Bat family are a collective of ninja detectives, the Arrow family are hunters, trackers and survivalists, the Super family are the powerhouse family, the Flash family are the speedsters and metahumans related to the speedforce; so my Black Lightning family are the elemental and metahuman specialist family. I also wanted to avoid just loading it up full of Outsiders since characters like Katana and Geo-force definitely deserve their own families if we're being honest. lastly, I wanted my picks to be characters that bring something unique to the table and who I felt would also benefit from a new collective

1. Peter Gambi - Gambi is one of the few Alfred-types that I think feels natural. the TV show makes a very strong case for Gambi as a mainstay of the Lightning family in any expanded incarnation.

2. Grace Choi (element: none) I feel Grace is Anissa's most prominent love interest and so should be her Lois Lane/Iris West but more like a partnership than a damsel. so I think it's important that she stays a part of the families inner circle once she and Anissa connect. my Anissa and Jennifer are on the younger side (mid and late teens respectively) so I would have Grace be the same and have her be both a metahuman AND and amazon; her strength and stats being amazonian and her enhanced senses being meta.

3. John Stewart (element: light) - I feel that if we are going to go all-in on expanding the Lightning family and their mythology then they should double down on the Stewart-Pierce familial connection. With his new power ring physiology he is technically a metahuman now, plus he's basically an elemental of the Emotional Spectrum as he can now generate and manipulate the Emotional light at will. by linking their family implicitly it primes both John and Jeff for high profile cosmic and otherworldly teams-ups together and, if they bring in Lightning Lad and Tyroc, it could be the start of a new DC dynasty like the Kent, Wayne, or the West-Allen clans.

4. Duke Thomas (element: sun and shadow) - I feel one of the biggest missed opportunities in Bryan Hill's Outsiders is the chance to have Black Lightning take Duke on as a protege like how he used to have with Static. Pouching Duke from the Batfamily would boost Duke's profile by giving him some distance from the oversaturated Gotham collective and adds a bit more variety to the skillsets of the Lightning family by throwing in a unique and more nuanced element manipulater since Duke's solar powers aren't super straightforward. he can fill a somewhat composite role between Static (his mentorship under Jeff) and Brandon from the TV show (his relationship with Jeff's daughters). I would move Duke and his cousin Jay out of Gotham and base them in Freeland.

5. Jakeem Thunder (element: thunderbolt magic) another protege for Black Lightning similar to Duke. I picked Jakeem because with him now honing his own thunderbolt magic, I feel he needs more connections outside the JSA that'll allow him to grow in autonomy and I felt he'd fit nicely in with Black Lightning since he's always brushed up against magic. the magic he received from the thunderbolt functions as his "element" so to speak and he would act as the direct link between the family and magical threats. I also would retcon him as being related to Lynn and John somehow, maybe a cousin or something.

6. Cyclone/Maxine Hunkel/Red Tornado (element: air) I believe Cyclone and Jeff crossed paths on the All-Star Squadron and I don't think she's been used much in the DC since New 52, so I would reintroduce her as part of the Lightning family as an ally in protecting Freeland (like Azrael or Batwing); alternatively, they could go with the android Red Tornado. by introducing either Cyclone or Red Tornado, that would tie the Red Tornado legacy to the Black Lightning mythos and strengthen the elemental angle for the Lightning family since Red Tornado (I think Maxine too) is straight-up a true blue wind elemental.

7. Amazing-Man (element: any and all) one of the most slept on and forgotten black heroes at DC and I feel his legacy deserves a revival. I would have the Everett family have ties to Freeland, like they were one of first metahumans from the "Green Light experiments" (I'd do like the show and have it be DC's version of the Tuskegee study and the Crack era) in Freeland; explaining why Freeland has a high concentration of metahuman civilizations. I would link the Everett family to the Pierce family by having them both descend from the Green Light experiments and, keeping with the elemental theme, his powers allow him take on the powers of pretty much any element making him a powerhouse within the family dynamic.

family-adjacent
1. Henderson - Jefferson's Commissioner Gordon
2. Blue Devil - Jefferson's partner early in his career and his partner when it comes to magical threats.
3. Painkiller - following the TV show, former villain but eventual ally to the family and love interest for Jennifer. he'll be Freeland's Red Hood, he's the rogue antihero of the collective.
4. LaLa/The Tattoo Man - just like the show but eventually rises up to be a Tobias style kingpin but he's more of a neutral entity who tries to keep the streets in check. occasionally works with Black Lightning as one of the few moral OGs in Freeland but does bump heads with Jeff. Painkiller is his right hand.
5. The remaining Outsiders - I would have Geo-force and Katana regularly work with Black Lightning from their time on the Outsiders. all the Outsiders come to Jeff's aid when need be and are close to the Lightning family.

teams with with certain family members as the focal point

Freeland Freedom Fighters - a team of young heros who fight metahuman trafficking in Freeland: Duke, Jakeem, Anissa, Jennifer, Grace, Painkiller, Cyclone

Black Star - DC's most powerful black duo who deal with the cosmic threats facing Freeland or the earth: Black Lightning & John Stewart.

Black & Blue - the dynamic duo of magic and the occult in and around Freeland: Black Lightning & Blue Devil

Elemental Forces - a team of DC's most powerful elementals: Black Lightning, Cyclone (or Red Tornado), Geo-Force, Fire, Swamp Thing, Mera

Do you think Hotspot would make this list? Maybe as a friend to either Anissa or Jennifer?

[lemonpeace]

Do you think Hotspot would make this list? Maybe as a friend to either Anissa or Jennifer?

I forgot about HOTSPOT!! I love Hotspot!! I demand justice4joto!! hmmmm I need to revise. off rip, i'd definitely swap him in over Fire on the Elemental Forces.

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i went back and edited my post, here's what i added:

3. Isaiah Crockett (element: heat and fire) post-New 52 I don't think they have properly reintroduced Hotspot before killing him in Heroes in Crisis, so I tweak his origin to make him a Freeland native and a pure Meta rather than half-alien. How I would square that would be by separateing the Pyre identity from Holocaust (when he was in the DC universe), make him his own character (say Leonard Crockett) and retcon him as a former anti-villain/rival of Black Lightning; then have Isaiah be his son. his Dad has Tattoo man or Tobias Whale bring him back to life and after he comes back he moves away from Hotspot and becomes Joto again because I'm African and I like African names. Have him be his own hero operation in Freeland, with his Dad as support, but over time he becomes part of the Lightning family in a similar capacity to like Steel or Batwoman.

Elemental Forces - a team of DC's most powerful elementals: Black Lightning, Cyclone (or Red Tornado), Geo-Force, Joto, Swamp Thing, Mera

Super Predators - Undead and Immortal black male youths aka America's nightmare. This is a black ops team all about exacting righteous black rage through any means necessary. they work well together but each come from a different moral angle: Joto (ambiguous), Duke (righteous), Painkiller (radial)

just like that, four black superhero family legacies (Pierces, Stewarts, Everetts, and Crocketts) that holistically create a fleshed out a Freeland mythology and a solid foundation as an extensive Black Lightning family of characters in DC.

[lemonpeace]

to this day, still my favorite Black Lightning outing of all time!



I love when he faces off against other elementals.

[Frontier]

to this day, still my favorite Black Lightning outing of all time!



I love when he faces off against other elementals.

Reminds me of that Thunder and Lightning short that had him soloing the Masters of Disaster.

[Robanker]

I forgot about HOTSPOT!! I love Hotspot!! I demand justice4joto!! hmmmm I need to revise. off rip, i'd definitely swap him in over Fire on the Elemental Forces.

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i went back and edited my post, here's what i added:

3. Isaiah Crockett (element: heat and fire) post-New 52 I don't think they have properly reintroduced Hotspot before killing him in Heroes in Crisis, so I tweak his origin to make him a Freeland native and a pure Meta rather than half-alien. How I would square that would be by separateing the Pyre identity from Holocaust (when he was in the DC universe), make him his own character (say Leonard Crockett) and retcon him as a former anti-villain/rival of Black Lightning; then have Isaiah be his son. his Dad has Tattoo man or Tobias Whale bring him back to life and after he comes back he moves away from Hotspot and becomes Joto again because I'm African and I like African names. Have him be his own hero operation in Freeland, with his Dad as support, but over time he becomes part of the Lightning family in a similar capacity to like Steel or Batwoman.

Elemental Forces - a team of DC's most powerful elementals: Black Lightning, Cyclone (or Red Tornado), Geo-Force, Joto, Swamp Thing, Mera

Super Predators - Undead and Immortal black male youths aka America's nightmare. This is a black ops team all about exacting righteous black rage through any means necessary. they work well together but each come from a different moral angle: Joto (ambiguous), Duke (righteous), Painkiller (radial)

just like that, four black superhero family legacies (Pierces, Stewarts, Everetts, and Crocketts) that holistically create a fleshed out a Freeland mythology and a solid foundation as an extensive Black Lightning family of characters in DC.

The good news about Death Metal is that these sort of things allow for soft reboots in the vein of bringing characters back and justifying it with the last cosmic retcon; essentially the changes were beneath the surface and mostly involved bringing back canon fodder.

I literally never read anything with this character, but for his fans, I hope that a writer who cares about him brings him back and handwaves his resurrection as part of Death Metal. No big arc, let's move on and do cool stuff while leaving Heroes in Crisis in the rear view mirror.

On-topic for Jeff, man I gotta say as much as I appreciate the characters on the show, the soundtrack makes those fight scenes. I hear it in the background whenever Jeff is on the page now and it does just make the show that much better. Cress is an outstanding Jefferson, too. I can't imagine anyone else in the role.

Comic-wise, we have one more issue of BatO and then John Ridley's Other History of the DC Universe and then nothing with Jefferson. What's everyone's dream team for Jeff's next arc, mini or ongoing?

[lemonpeace]

The good news about Death Metal is that these sort of things allow for soft reboots in the vein of bringing characters back and justifying it with the last cosmic retcon; essentially the changes were beneath the surface and mostly involved bringing back canon fodder.

I literally never read anything with this character, but for his fans, I hope that a writer who cares about him brings him back and handwaves his resurrection as part of Death Metal. No big arc, let's move on and do cool stuff while leaving Heroes in Crisis in the rear view mirror.

On-topic for Jeff, man I gotta say as much as I appreciate the characters on the show, the soundtrack makes those fight scenes. I hear it in the background whenever Jeff is on the page now and it does just make the show that much better. Cress is an outstanding Jefferson, too. I can't imagine anyone else in the role.

Comic-wise, we have one more issue of BatO and then John Ridley's Other History of the DC Universe and then nothing with Jefferson. What's everyone's dream team for Jeff's next arc, mini or ongoing?

I hope his next arc is about him setting up shop and establishing his space. Hill has done a a pretty good job (if nothing else) hyping Black Lightning up in his Outsiders run, I hope with Other History around the corner that DC has Jeff dealing with a story that takes up more space in the landscape. I think it would be fun for BL to fight Red Lion, Warlord Black Panther was an interesting idea and I think they could expand on him and make him very compelling. We've already seen that he can mess with a the Justice League a little bit in Priest's JL story, I feel like he could be like a Dr. Doom type mastermind and would love to see how Jeff deals with that. then there is a added layer of the African Indigene vs the African diaspora, with two character who are cerebral by nature, that should be a philosophical/cultural dynamic that's explore.

However, I'm also really keen on seeing Black Lightning flexing nowadays. I want to see him in more high fantasy and scifi stories where he gets to be spectacular and conventionally powerful; so seeing him fight an Elemental like vs Geo Force, or him fighting another powerhouse in the DC universe. I think him and John teaming up to fight Umbrax on some other planet for a limited series would be perfect.

[Incognito]

my idea is based in my idea of Freeland as the metahuman capital of the America, so the Black Lightning family will focus largely on (but not limited to) Metahuman crime in their city. so for my Lightning family, I wanted my roster's niche to largely be Metahumans with elemental based abilities, since Jeff has been described as an elemental from time to time. the Bat family are a collective of ninja detectives, the Arrow family are hunters, trackers and survivalists, the Super family are the powerhouse family, the Flash family are the speedsters and metahumans related to the speedforce; so my Black Lightning family are the elemental and metahuman specialist family. I also wanted to avoid just loading it up full of Outsiders since characters like Katana and Geo-force definitely deserve their own families if we're being honest. lastly, I wanted my picks to be characters that bring something unique to the table and who I felt would also benefit from a new collective

I like the idea of Freeland being the capital city of metahumans. I would borrow some elements of Young Justice animated series by having metahuman youth centres to help children and teens who have been victimized by meta-human trafficking and there could also be metahuman communities in Freeland. I imagine that the city has been infected by the source wall energies, and there are tons of victims whose metagene were activated from the cosmic event.

[Besouro]

What are y'all thoughts on the BL tv series?

It has had 3 seasons so far and will be returning for a 4th next year.

Please give a review rating ..../10 for the show over all and if u can...also share pros and cons in your opinion about the tv show so far as well as what you would like to change, remove and/or add for the next season.

[Besouro]

Uhm.....can someone help me understand how BL got x-ray vision and flight powers in the tv series?

[Iconic]

Uhm.....can someone help me understand how BL got x-ray vision and flight powers in the tv series?

It’s just the result of someone taking the time to respectably flesh out his powers beyond “pew-pew” lightning bolts. Somehow the goggles assist with being able to see through things. I believe that episode explained it. Flight is in the comics already. Electromagnetism.

[king81992]

Uhm.....can someone help me understand how BL got x-ray vision and flight powers in the tv series?

An in-depth explanation is that he flies via electromagnetism and has x-ray vision due to being able to see electrical impulses in the human body.

What really bothers me about the new Batman and the Outsiders comic is that he 'needed' an 'upgrade' from Batman to do things he was fully capable of doing pre Rebirth or whatever the current era of DC comics is.

[Besouro]

It’s just the result of someone taking the time to respectably flesh out his powers beyond “pew-pew” lightning bolts. Somehow the goggles assist with being able to see through things. I believe that episode explained it. Flight is in the comics already. Electromagnetism.

So basically BL himself doesn't have the x-ray vision power, it's the tech goggles doing it. Ok.

Since when did BL become electromagnetic?

His powers have always been pure electricity..... electromagnetism/EM powers is STATICs and SPECTRUM s/Monica Rambeau's superpower.....looks like they wanna head BL in that direction which would be too copycatie.

Yet there are still plenty of cool still BL can do with pure electricity. I have enjoyed what Hill has done to elevate BLs abilities in the Outsiders but u can tell that he is pushing the electrical powers to it's higher limits without going into EM category too much.

The flight power is VERY Recent in the current Outsiders. I don't recall BL ever having flight powers until the tv show and Hill followed by doing the same in the comics.

Btw how does Thunder's powers differentiate from BLs powers?