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  1. #1
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    Default Post-Crisis, Pre-52 Appreciation Thread

    Roughly 1986 to 2011 is one of the strongest periods of Batman's comic book history, though definitely not without a ton of flaws. Thanks to ComiXology and the DC Universe app, I've been able to easily re-collect and re-read this period recently, and it's also the period I read when I first started reading comics when I was around 10 years old.

    The amount of books in the Batman franchise exploded from two titles — Batman and Detective Comics — into a whole library of spin-off books.

    —Shadow of the Bat
    —Legends of the Dark Knight anthology book
    —Birds of Prey
    —Gotham Central
    —Gotham Knights

    Major storylines

    A Death in the Family
    -Batman: Year Three
    -A Lonely Place of Dying
    -Robin Mini-Series

    -Sword of Azrael
    -Vengeance of Bane
    -Prelude to Knightfall
    -Knightquest Crusade
    -Knightquest Search
    -Vengeance of Bane 2

    Zero Hour

    No Man's Land
    -Road to No Man's Land

    New Gotham
    Officer Down
    Gotham Central
    Bruce Wayne: Murderer?
    Bruce Wayne: Fugitive


    War Games
    -Book 1 and 2

    Under The Hood

    One Year Later
    -Face the Face
    -Paul Dini's Detective Comics

    The Morrison Epic
    —Batman & Son
    —Batman R.I.P.
    —Batman & Robin
    —The Return of Bruce Wayne
    —Batman Inc.

    There's a lot of great work by some great writers who I think haven't really received as much praise as they deserve. We hear a lot about Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Dennis O'Neil, Steve Englehart, Marv Wolfman, Jeph Loeb, but there's not as many Gotham landmarks named after folks like:

    —Chuck Dixon
    —Doug Moench
    —Alan Grant
    —Devin Grayson
    —Gail Simone
    —Kelley Puckett
    —Ed Brubaker
    —Greg Rucka
    —Andersen Garbych
    —Judd Winnick

    But collectively, this group did a TON of work to develop Batman and Gotham in some pretty significant ways. It's pretty interesting to look at this continuity as one big story. It wasn't engineered to be that way, exactly, but that's kind of the way it worked out.

    This era is kind of all about Batman's World — the Post-Crisis continuity begins by killing Robin/Jason Todd, and ends with Batman having a worldwide network of Robins in Inc, while also burying a third Robin (Jason, Stephanie, Damian): his own son.

    At the same time, Batman's stability is tested nonstop in every way — mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually — throughout this period. He really does not ever get a break in this timeline! Everyone around him is dying, crumbling, and leaving. Especially by the end of War Games/War Crimes, he's at one of his most isolated and lowest status quos ever. Then Red Hood / Infinite Crisis / One Year Later props him back up a little bit, then Morrison's arc miraculously brings everything to a comprehensive conclusion.

    There's plenty to criticize, and plenty to appreciate... in this thread, we'll do both, but keep the criticisms comparative instead of wholly dismissive.

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    You missed a few great stories/runs:

    Before Knightfall there are:

    1. Batman: Year One
    2. Batman & the Monster Men + Batman & the Mad Monk
    3. The Man Who Laughs
    4. Batman: Prey + Batman: Terror
    5. Legends of The Dark Knight: Norm Breyfogle
    6. Batman: Haunted Knight
    7. Batman: Snow
    8. Batman: The Long Halloween + Batman: Dark Victory + Catwoman: When in Rome
    9. Batman Chronicle: The Gauntlet
    10. Robin: Year One
    11. Batman: Tales of the Demon
    12. Batgirl: Year One
    13. Arkham Asylum: A serious house on a serious house
    14. The Killing Joke
    15. A Death in the familly + A lonely place of dying
    16. Batman: Anarky
    17. Batman: Shaman
    18. Batman: Gothic
    19. Batman: Dark Knight, Dark City
    20. Batman: Prey
    21. Batman: Venom
    22. Batman: Ego and other tails
    23. Batman: Faces
    24. Batman: Other Realms
    25. Batman: Collected Legends of the Dark Knight

    after Hush you have Batman by Paul Dini:

    • Batman: Detective
    • Batman: Death and the City
    • Batman: Private Casebook
    • Batman: Heart of Hush
    • Batman: Streets of Gotham, Vol. 1 - Hush Money
    • Batman: Streets of Gotham, Vol. 2 - Leviathan
    • Batman: Streets of Gotham, Vol. 3 - The House of Hush

    Before and after War Games you have:

    1. Batman: War Drums
    2. Batman: War Games
    3. Batman: War Crimes

    Before Morrison's run you have the return of Jason Todd:

    1. Batman: Red Hood (aka Batman: Under the Red Hood)
    2. Red Hood: Lost Days

    Morrison's run goes as follow:

    1. Batman: The Black Casebook
    2. Batman and Son
    3. Batman: The Resurrection of Ra’s Al Ghul
    4. Batman R.I.P.
    5. (Final Crisis)
    6. Batman: Battle for the Cowl
    7. Batman & Robin vol.1: Batman Reborn
    8. Batman & Robin vol.2: Batman vs Robin
    9. Batman: Time and The Batman
    10. Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne
    11. Batman & Robin vol.3: Batman & Robin Must Die
    12. Batman Incorporated
    13. Batman, Incorporated, Vol. 1: Demon Star
    14. Batman, Incorporated, Vol. 2: Gotham’s Most Wanted

    During Morrison's run you have Scott Snyder's first Batman run:

    1. Batman: The Black Mirror
    2. Batman: Gates of Gotham

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    This Era is my favorite, simply because the DC universe felt truly connected and there was a legacy there.

    Nevertheless, No Man's Land made me love the Bat Fam, it showed their true importance to the mythos.

    And of course the intro of Cass and Harley

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