Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 66
  1. #16
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    270

    Default

    Harley became such an iconic character that I think it's going to be hard for anyone to introduce another original character as "Joker's girlfriend" without being immediately compared and dismissed as not Harley. Can there really be more than just her with that association in people's minds?

  2. #17
    Extraordinary Member adrikito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Gotham City
    Posts
    6,877

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Katana500 View Post
    This new character I could see becoming popular if the story is good.
    .
    I think the same.. Specially if she is a little different than harley with Joker.. More independent.

  3. #18
    Astonishing Member Fergus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Manchester UK
    Posts
    2,743

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lilyrose View Post
    Harley became such an iconic character that I think it's going to be hard for anyone to introduce another original character as "Joker's girlfriend" without being immediately compared and dismissed as not Harley. Can there really be more than just her with that association in people's minds?
    Not so long ago Harley being an iconic character or being DC's fourth pillar along with WW, superman and Batman would have being laughable but here we are.

    In people's minds when they thought about Dc Icons harley wasn't up there but that has changed.

    minds can be changed. Harley is already moving away from joker's ex in people's mind.

    The design of the character is interesting. Hope the story is good but not sure why the Joker needs a girlfriend.
    Last edited by Fergus; 01-20-2020 at 03:01 PM.

  4. #19
    Mighty Member Katana500's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    1,102

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lilyrose View Post
    Harley became such an iconic character that I think it's going to be hard for anyone to introduce another original character as "Joker's girlfriend" without being immediately compared and dismissed as not Harley. Can there really be more than just her with that association in people's minds?
    I think Joker's ex is kinda Harley Quinn's standard status quo now which leaves open the girlfriend role. I think it would look quite bad for DC to regress Harley to simply being Joker's girlfriend again.

  5. #20
    Astonishing Member Fergus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Manchester UK
    Posts
    2,743

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Katana500 View Post
    I think Joker's ex is kinda Harley Quinn's standard status quo now which leaves open the girlfriend role. I think it would look quite bad for DC to regress Harley to simply being Joker's girlfriend again.
    She's certainly gone past just a love interest of a well known comic character. Quite an achievement especially since she was the only one unlike characters who have multiple so audiences had accepted that status Quo.

    Joker's girl. That literally was all she was and what she was created to be.

    Harley Quinn is quite a character and I don't think she gets enough for what she's accomplished. From Love interest to strong independent solo character.

  6. #21
    Astonishing Member Nite-Wing's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,627

    Default

    Harley was not his first girlfriend, gangster moll, or sidekick
    It's a lot easier for her character to be seen as something else when all that came before her eventually broke off from the Joker or just got discarded by him.

    In Harley's case she was just written as captivating and entertaining apart from Joker and developed her own relationships and dynamics with other people in Gotham.

    Once this character is given the freedom to do that as well and escape the Joker the possibilities are there

  7. #22
    Incredible Member billee0918's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    834

    Default

    Tynion has announced her name is Punchline

    https://twitter.com/jamesthefourth/s...888852992?s=21

  8. #23
    Incredible Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    792

    Default

    We all know Joker loves only two people: himself, and Batman.

  9. #24
    Astonishing Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    2,226

    Default

    A new gun moll and fellow misanthrope could slot into Harley’s old spot as Joker’s sidekick, which has admittedly amounted to less of her appeal ever since Mad Love made her sympathetic and since she’s a more genuinely funny character.
    Franchise Wars Podcast and YouTube Host.
    TITANS pilot Recap, Reaction, and Review video! https://youtu.be/l1tKBTUtiyM
    The Force Awakens vs The Last Jedi https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...=2&i=408109126
    Teen Titans (03) vs Teen Titans Go! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...=2&i=400482734

  10. #25
    ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ Godlike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    9,364

    Default

    I don’t hate it.

  11. #26
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    47,710

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by godisawesome View Post
    A new gun moll and fellow misanthrope could slot into Harley’s old spot as Joker’s sidekick, which has admittedly amounted to less of her appeal ever since Mad Love made her sympathetic and since she’s a more genuinely funny character.
    I think it's still part of her appeal, it's just part of a very different take on her character compared to what we have now, where she's more of a Deadpool type.

    She seems more like a female enforcer then a moll-type character, and Tynion compares her to Mercy Graves, but it'll be interesting to see how she works.

  12. #27
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by K. Jones View Post
    This is neat.

    I think Joker works aesthetically very well with a Moll. Because he's so specifically a riff (or progenitor? creator?) of pop culture gangster tropes, just usually turned on their head somewhat, having a moll to balance out all the typical nameless male goon squad feels very on color for him. That's why Harley worked so well, but she was hardly the first moll he had. F sure most of his history having molls took place in Batman '66, where you just weren't a pop art arch-criminal without one.

    It does always beg the question of you know, modern Joker and his modern ... extreme levels of murderousness ... and the long-term survival of any given moll.

    But another thing it does that's important is that it humanizes him. I'm surprised how often writers don't make any effort to humanize Joker, and how easily he falls into some weird almost supernatural horror movie character version of himself without those reminders that, for all his weirdness, like Batman, he's just a guy. Just a very clever, very well-prepared, or at least very good at improvisation, and very very lucky guy.

    Tynion giving him a henchgirl is actually a pretty good sign, IMO, that he's got a good read on the character and how to use him. Which is good because I was actually worried at Joker's immediate usage in this run and how he's going to be showing up all over the place and that there's legit a story called JOKER WAR on the horizon.
    Great post!

    It's interesting too that Harley Quinn is now even more like Nightwing, as the first sidekick to Joker / Batman. DC has flirted with pairing them before and it's maybe even more interesting now that Joker's Moll becomes a legacy position with Harley being her own thing and this new character.

  13. #28
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by billee0918 View Post
    Tynion has announced her name is Punchline

    https://twitter.com/jamesthefourth/s...888852992?s=21
    Great name!

  14. #29
    Extraordinary Member adrikito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Gotham City
    Posts
    6,877

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus View Post

    Harley Quinn is quite a character and I don't think she gets enough for what she's accomplished. From Love interest to strong independent solo character.
    You think that there is not enough Harley?

    She will be soon in 3-4 comics.. Harley, Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey and.. I think that there was another(one secondary comic).. But I forgot the name

    BIRDS OF PREY.. Why add her here? She has enough. She appearing here while I should continue waiting for Steph.. That for DC fault Bendis canīt do big things with her.
    Last edited by adrikito; 01-21-2020 at 05:54 AM.

  15. #30
    Also goes by Westbats Westbats's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    85

    Default

    I was thinking about it, do you think Punchline could be Earth Prime's Marian Drews (from Batman: White Knight)?
    I'm currently reading Batman, Detective Comics, Nightwing, Batgirl, Batman: Curse of the White Knight, Justice League, Magnificent Ms. Marvel, Daredevil, Red Hood and The Outlaws, Batman and The Outsiders, Young Justice, and Dial H for Hero.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •