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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorkrypton View Post
    I thought it was said that the NEW52 WW was a false memory....
    Well, on the primary DCU (during a certain span of Rebirth time, with "The Lies" and "The Truth"), that was said, and explicated. And I think it's a very bad idea for reasons I've gone into before, and I hope it's not true for whatever version of Wonder Woman we'll be getting from wherever the primary DCU goes tomorrow. (Who knows?)

    But, in the parallel world that features The New 52 (which is sometimes called Earth-52), Azzarello's version is accurate.

    Myself, I am suffering from Multiverse Exhaustion, and would rather focus on one version of Diana, who has a cohesive backstory and ongoing narrative, and not ever think about The New 52 Wonder Woman as anything other than a comic book DC once published which has nothing to do with current continuity.

    But that's just me.

    (And to be honest, if they create an Earth-2 for the original JSA - which I think they should - I have no objection to the Golden Age Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman being in it, and GA Green Arrow and Aquaman, among others, in that world if not in the JSA. But I wouldn't want to see a lot of crossovers and characters migrating from world to world. Or too many other parallel worlds in use. Multiverse Exhaustion.)
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    I liked her as the modern JSA’s “Wonder Woman.” Since there were few JSA survivors between her, Wildcat, Alan and Jay.

    But now that Diana’s long lived and not as naive as she was post-Crisis. I can see why just having Diana be the both the 1940s WOnder Woman and modern day Wonder Woman make sense. And a simpler history.

    Besides, the general audience for both the current movies and the Linda Carter show already famously see Diana as that way. So the comics may as well follow suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I liked her as the modern JSA’s “Wonder Woman.” Since there were few JSA survivors between her, Wildcat, Alan and Jay.

    But now that Diana’s long lived and not as naive as she was post-Crisis. I can see why just having Diana be the both the 1940s WOnder Woman and modern day Wonder Woman make sense. And a simpler history.

    Besides, the general audience for both the current movies and the Linda Carter show already famously see Diana as that way. So the comics may as well follow suit.
    But they aren't following suit. They're not even using the same war from the movies and the Carter show didn't have the JSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    But they aren't following suit. They're not even using the same war from the movies and the Carter show didn't have the JSA.
    I mean that Diana was active as a superheroine in Man’s World (80-100 years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I liked her as the modern JSA’s “Wonder Woman.” Since there were few JSA survivors between her, Wildcat, Alan and Jay.

    But now that Diana’s long lived and not as naive as she was post-Crisis. I can see why just having Diana be the both the 1940s WOnder Woman and modern day Wonder Woman make sense. And a simpler history.

    Besides, the general audience for both the current movies and the Linda Carter show already famously see Diana as that way. So the comics may as well follow suit.
    I think it could work under the right writer but that it all seems editorially mandated/movie synergy rather than some writer's general idea kind of leads me doubt it will really benefit Diana beyond being some piece of trivia.

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    If it were up to me, then I will make Hippolyta went into Man's World for her curiosity in Man's World, and then her chance came to her with the US's air force pilot, Steve Trevor, stranded in Paradise Island. Knowing it's her chance to go into the Man's World, she made a deal with Steve Trevor that she will help him went back to the Man's World if he took her with him. Agreeing with her deal, Hippolyta and Steve Trevor secretly left Paradise Island and went to the Man's World, where she found out that Man's World is not as beautiful as she hoped to be. The Man's World is full of conflict, misogyny, and misery. But, being the rebellious youth that she is, she made her vow that she will make the world better for women.

    How she did that? By being a hero. At first, she will volunteer herself as a soldier, but her fighting prowess and her power will render herself to become a Superhero and will be called as Ms. America. Hearing that horrendous name, a pair of comic book artists and writers will fix her name and called the Wonder Woman. I think that this part is kind, like how Hippolyta's legend inspired a comic book that will later be called Sensational Comic.

    In my imagination, Hippolyta is not only learning of how negative is the Man's World is, but also the brighter side. Whether it's woman and man, they fought for people and nations that they cared, but what amazed her will be something extraordinary, and that is called JSA. Hippolyta is amazed at JSA and later will join as one of their ranks, and together, they will end the World War. But, even then, the peace won't last with the incoming of the first crisis, and that is the invasion of Mobius the Anti-Monitor. The JSA, their villains, and other heroes of the golden age fought valiantly against the first-ever crisis and repelled the Anti-Monitor with the cost some of their heroes, and with that, the JSA is disbanded.

    Hippolyta, being one of the survivors of the crisis, continue being a superhero while being a military instructor and officers with her husband, Steve Trevor. They are happily married, until one day, Hera comes to her world and gives her a mission. A mission that is conflicted with her life as a Superhero, but alas, she needs to do it as the pact of Amazon made them can't disobey the Goddess of Olympians. The mission is Hippolyta must kill the last daughter of Zeus. Reluctantly and forced, Hippolyta accepted the mission that brings her into another war, and that is the Vietnam War.

    The Vietnam War of DC Universe is not made by humans hand, but instead by Gods that was divided into two factions, the one who wanted to help Zeus and the one who opposed him. They used the greediness of humans as their tools and chose their champions with Hippolyta as Hera Champion and Ares as Zeus Champion. The two fought with Hippolyta won, but it is a bitter win because she saw the sight that she never wanted to see. And that is one of the cruelest acts that humans and God did. But, alas, she came to her mission and facing against the daughter of Zeus; she can't do it. Because Hippolyta knew, if she killed the baby, she will never return as the Wonder Woman, but she will return as a monster. Like the Gods and Humans. So, she pleaded the goddess of Olympians for their mercy against the baby. The Goddess agrees, but with the condition, and that is, she will return to Paradise Island to receive her punishment, and she will be banned from leaving this island ever again. In other words, Hippolyta will become the slave to the Goddess of Olympians for the eternities. A condition that Hippolyta agrees and without telling her husband, she left the Man's World and return to the Paradise Island with a baby that she adopted and called as Diana, a name that Steve Trevor chose for their daughter if she is ever born.

    Hippolyta return to the Paradise Island and for the longest time become the de facto leader of the Paradise Island. She didn't interact much with Diana because of the Goddess pact, making Diana felt distant to her mother. On the other hand, thanks to the new teaching of Amazon, Diana felt the hatred of the Man's World that the Goddess instill, much to Hippolyta sadness, because Man's World is not as black and white as the Goddess lied. But then, a second chance came with another military airplane crashed into Paradise Island and from that airplane was a man. A man that the goddess always thought as the pest of the paradise. But, for Hippolyta there is something wrong.

    Being a former military officer of human world, Hippolyta knew the crashed is intentional and the man is hiding something. Secretly, during the night, using her Lasso of Truth, Hippolyta made the man speak, and much to her surprise and joy, the military officer is the grandnephew of Steve Trevor and he came here to meet her. Steve Trevor is dying from old age waiting for her and the military officer wanted to make her meet him in his dying time. Hippolyta was overjoyed that the love of herlife is still waiting her, but at the same time she was saddened. No matter how she spin it, she was entrapped in Paradise Island and even if she wanted to meet her husband again, the curse won't allow her to meet her beloved again.

    When she wanted to refuse it, she remembered Diana. Diana was young, inexperienced and naive. A trait that the pre-crisis and post-crisis of her really known in her year one. But, Hippolyta knew that much like her, she need to see the worlds. So, like the old time she made an aggrement with the man of Trevors family. She will release him from the prison of the Paradise Island if he is escorted by her daughter Diana. An agreement that shocks the military officer, but after hearing her reason, he relucantly agreed. But, aside from that aggrement, Hippolyta also made the military officer to promise her that he will never tell her about her, Steve, or Wonder Woman to Diana, because she wanted Diana to become a person by her own decision, not by legacy that she had.

    During the trial of the military officer, Hippolyta voiced her decision much to everyone surprise, but because of the pressuring voice that she had, everyone relucantly agreed. Diana is tasked to escort the military officer back to the Man's World. And that's the start of Diana's Year One in the Man's World.

    Whew, I ranted a bit and I am sorry for that, but to me the idea of Hippolyta become the world war 2 hero is quite interesting.
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    Having Hippolyta being the WWII Wonder Woman adds a different subtext to her character. Her objections to Diana leaving Themyscira take on a different meaning if she went to go fight WW2 with the JSA.

    Granted I love the idea that Diana lived through the 20th century and had untold numerous adventures offscreen.

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