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Spider-Man 2 is the dumbest movie in the trilogy, and was the dumbest Spider-Man movie until Homecoming nearly succeeded at dethrowning it.
"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hands"
Nobody bothered asking "Doctor, wouldn't that be hot?" or "What about the gravitational force and field?" or "That will be too bright, we don't have protection for our eyes"
The mere idea of the tentacles being attached to his spinal cord with needles should kill him, he constantly breaks the joints of his spine, and that lets loose his spinal fluid, it's fatal. But no, the movie just okays it.
Tentacles have artificial intelligence that is exclusive to the movie, and a chip made of what looks like glass material to protect his higher brain function from the A.I trying to take control of him. Why build something like that? The climax showed that he wasn't controlled, he had control the whole time, so that nonsense line about tentacles controlling the doctor is hokey and useless. Why do they have a mind of their own? Why do they want Ock to continue his experiments? This is nonsense.
Ock's tentacles kill doctors, Octavius panics, then the tentacles attached to his back with no support to the ground just flip a taxi without further breaking his fatally punctured spine from the immense weight of the tentacles added to that of the car.
Ock wants to drown himself, tentacles whisper, and he converts to villainy much faster than Electro does in the Amazing Spider-Man 2. Electro at least was unstable before the accident, and suddenly he is surrounded by people who glorify Spider-Man who stopped Electro from killing the sniper that shot him, and at least Electro was subject to some sort of racism in Times Square before getting shot at. Ock had a lot of good things going for him until the accident, and then the tenatcles tell him "Continue your experiments, don't shy away from being evil", and Ock is "YES, I'M EVIL".
Doc Ock is worse than Electro, but people mistake Electro for thinking he turned evil cause Spider-Man doesn't remember his name, although Electro was willing to listen to Spider-Man once Spider-Man called him Max.
And later, Doc Ock is willing to squash Spider-Man's head and kill Aunt May with a smile on his face. That's not a good sympathetic villain, that's just dumb.
And this Ock received so many attacks from Spider-Man, fell from a high tower on a moving train, and all in all he was mostly undamaged, a pudgy middle aged man who probably wasn't trained to fight. Even if you argue Spider-Man was pulling his punches, there is no way he should survive the electric shock to his system, falling from a great height, or even that kick to the face from Spider-Man on the train. Remember the group of thugs amateur Spider-Man took down with absolute ease in the first movie to take pictures for the Bugle? Those were trained men who lost to Spider-Man pulling his punches.
Ock should be threatening in keeping Spider-Man at bay with his stretching tentacles, something the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon actually did better than this dumb dumb dumb movie.
MJ is terrible. She's constantly annoyed, she's always mad, just cause Peter missed her play one time. That happened in the 90s cartoon, that happened in the MTV cartoon, she wasn't annoying in those two cartoons, why is she excused here? More needy and annoying than she is accused of in Spider-Man 3 where she was still trying to be with a Peter who wouldn't let her talk so she went to Harry cause she wanted someone to listen, not to cheat on Peter with. If you say Peter was flaky, MJ broke her promise of marriage.
And Harry is some dumb shit. Ok, I get it, vengeance is blind, but guess what? Two years is enough time to think things through and question why would a killer gently place the victim at his home. But no, that is the fuel that drives the second act of the movie to where it reaches its climax of MJ getting kidnapped again and Spider-Man is placed to be killed.
Near the end of the movie, Harry doesn't want to kill his friend and sees the thing that killed his father, what does he do? Take it, and prepare it for the sequel, cause that's the plan they had for it anyway.
Power loss and reactivation is dumb.
I do appreciate that they've shown how much weight superheroing comes with on the life of someone, but they went overboard by making Peter too much of a doormat. C'mon guys, you're supposed to be fans of the character, you know Peter has a more outward and lovable personality than a doormat who takes punches without exclaiming "careful buddy, your should bag hit me in the face".