Dani Moonstar, Mirage Appreciation 2020

[Paleo_Rage]

Maybe fear is the easiest emotion for her but Dani should manipulate all of them and be at the least an alpha level empath. I would make her omega level but that’s just me. Also I would like for Hickman to flesh out how different empaths are from telepaths.

[Arachne]

The subtlety of use of powers as seen in NM #23 was long ago sacrificed for more weaponized use...

That's the one. Thanks for posting it. I always liked that her powers, back then, weren't a direct weapon. It forced her to be creative.

Maybe fear is the easiest emotion for her but Dani should manipulate all of them and be at the least an alpha level empath. I would make her omega level but that’s just me. Also I would like for Hickman to flesh out how different empaths are from telepaths.

IMO, Omegas usually only work when the whole team is Omega-level. When there are lower powered teammates, either the Omega is nerfed, or the lower powered characters get nothing to do.

I agree there should be a difference between empaths and telepaths. My theory is that it's how they access the targets brain. Telepaths go through the consciousness, empaths go through the subconcious, and possessors, like Karma, go through the motor control centres. They can all access other parts of the brain, but it's more difficult. At least it should be. X-writers have really overpowered telepaths.

[Paleo_Rage]

That's the one. Thanks for posting it. I always liked that her powers, back then, weren't a direct weapon. It forced her to be creative.



IMO, Omegas usually only work when the whole team is Omega-level. When there are lower powered teammates, either the Omega is nerfed, or the lower powered characters get nothing to do.

I agree there should be a difference between empaths and telepaths. My theory is that it's how they access the targets brain. Telepaths go through the consciousness, empaths go through the subconcious, and possessors, like Karma, go through the motor control centres. They can all access other parts of the brain, but it's more difficult. At least it should be. X-writers have really overpowered telepaths.

Well I think powerful women can work. I mean DC characters are so over powered but it doesnt take away from a lot of the stories. Like Storm has always been powerful but I rarely have seen a book where only her powers get showcased. ALso just because people have Omega level potential dont mean they always have access to it and thats my thing. Dani being an omega level empath could come with trials and tribulations.

[jamgut]

That's the one. Thanks for posting it. I always liked that her powers, back then, weren't a direct weapon. It forced her to be creative.



IMO, Omegas usually only work when the whole team is Omega-level. When there are lower powered teammates, either the Omega is nerfed, or the lower powered characters get nothing to do.

I agree there should be a difference between empaths and telepaths. My theory is that it's how they access the targets brain. Telepaths go through the consciousness, empaths go through the subconcious, and possessors, like Karma, go through the motor control centres. They can all access other parts of the brain, but it's more difficult. At least it should be. X-writers have really overpowered telepaths.

Completely agree about the overpowered telepaths. When telepath Psylocke can control minds or telepath Emma can create illusions, I think it devalues specialists like Dani and Karma.

[norj]

My theory is that after X-Force #100, Dani placed mental blocks on herself surpressing her full powers to ensure that she never pulls a Wanda.

[Arachne]

Completely agree about the overpowered telepaths. When telepath Psylocke can control minds or telepath Emma can create illusions, I think it devalues specialists like Dani and Karma.

Exactly. I know superheroes are about power fantasies, but I feel the X-men franchise has really limited itself by having characters with so many abilities that they don't need to be creative anymore.

My theory is that after X-Force #100, Dani placed mental blocks on herself surpressing her full powers to ensure that she never pulls a Wanda.

Interesting, she overdid it a bit if that's the case. It would explain a lot. I still prefer her having micro-telekinesis than reality warping powers, though. Not that she officially has either.

We so need an issue focused on Dani. Both to figure out her powers, and what's going on in her head these days. It seems strange that she wasn't made a great captain. My headcanon is that she turned down the offer so she could get reacquainted with her powers.

[norj]

Exactly. I know superheroes are about power fantasies, but I feel the X-men franchise has really limited itself by having characters with so many abilities that they don't need to be creative anymore.



Interesting, she overdid it a bit if that's the case. It would explain a lot. I still prefer her having micro-telekinesis than reality warping powers, though. Not that she officially has either.

We so need an issue focused on Dani. Both to figure out her powers, and what's going on in her head these days. It seems strange that she wasn't made a great captain. My headcanon is that she turned down the offer so she could get reacquainted with her powers.

I want to know why Dani even agreed to move to Koroka, after Schism she chose to take a third path by living among normal humans and there is no way she should make nice with people like Selene, Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse.

[Havok83]

I want to know why Dani even agreed to move to Koroka, after Schism she chose to take a third path by living among normal humans and there is no way she should make nice with people like Selene, Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse.

She hasnt interacted with them in the current era so we dont know that she's made nice with them. Rosenberg's set the stage for why she'd join Krakoa. That era was one of the worst times for mutants and as one that didnt go to AOX, she had to live through it. She got infected with the techno-organic virus and was later tortured and used as a mutant hunter. She watched as legislation was passed to distribute the mutant vaccine which killed alot of mutants. She watched several of her closest allies murdered including Rahne, Roberto and all the valkyries (whom she had to personally bury). Her mental state was not the best at the end of this run so when Xavier reveals his plans for Krakoa as a mutant utopia where the friends that Dani lost would be resurrected, I can see why she'd jump on board

[Arachne]

I think that's the first time I stopped reading a comic Dani was in. It just got so dammed depressing. I should pick up the war of the Realms tie in, though. I think I only got the first issue.

[Paleo_Rage]

Exactly. I know superheroes are about power fantasies, but I feel the X-men franchise has really limited itself by having characters with so many abilities that they don't need to be creative anymore.



Interesting, she overdid it a bit if that's the case. It would explain a lot. I still prefer her having micro-telekinesis than reality warping powers, though. Not that she officially has either.

We so need an issue focused on Dani. Both to figure out her powers, and what's going on in her head these days. It seems strange that she wasn't made a great captain. My headcanon is that she turned down the offer so she could get reacquainted with her powers.

Why micro telekinesis or reality warping when it could be psionic constructs and residue emotional energy (which she kind has already played around with). I still thinking making her a specific psionic broad range energy manipulator makes sense for her powers. She manipulates psionic energy and she is an empath. Her being empath allows her to do emotion based illusions, and her telempathic rapport with animals and the psionic energy manipulation explains the arrows, knives, etc she has used.

[Havok83]

I think that's the first time I stopped reading a comic Dani was in. It just got so dammed depressing. I should pick up the war of the Realms tie in, though. I think I only got the first issue.

The final shot has her kneeling over all the dead bodies that she has to bury and the ghosts of the valkyries and Bobby behind her. It was quite sad and yes depressing

[Arachne]

Why micro telekinesis or reality warping when it could be psionic constructs and residue emotional energy (which she kind has already played around with). I still thinking making her a specific psionic broad range energy manipulator makes sense for her powers. She manipulates psionic energy and she is an empath. Her being empath allows her to do emotion based illusions, and her telempathic rapport with animals and the psionic energy manipulation explains the arrows, knives, etc she has used.

That makes a certain amount of sense, but psionic energy is such a vague concept, it's hard to lock it down and say exactly what it can and can't do. It goes right back to the problem with telepaths.

The final shot has her kneeling over all the dead bodies that she has to bury and the ghosts of the valkyries and Bobby behind her. It was quite sad and yes depressing

Yeah, it sounds it. I think I'll leave it until I'm in an exceptionally good mood.

[c-lei]

She hasnt interacted with them in the current era so we dont know that she's made nice with them. Rosenberg's set the stage for why she'd join Krakoa. That era was one of the worst times for mutants and as one that didnt go to AOX, she had to live through it. She got infected with the techno-organic virus and was later tortured and used as a mutant hunter. She watched as legislation was passed to distribute the mutant vaccine which killed alot of mutants. She watched several of her closest allies murdered including Rahne, Roberto and all the valkyries (whom she had to personally bury). Her mental state was not the best at the end of this run so when Xavier reveals his plans for Krakoa as a mutant utopia where the friends that Dani lost would be resurrected, I can see why she'd jump on board

In other words, Dani asked herself was there any reason to stay where she wasn't wanted and didn't really want to be and found the answer to the question was no,there wasn't.

[Havok83]

Marvel continues to disappoint. Want to know what Dani does in Empyre? You already saw it in the preview

[Arachne]

Well, she didn't spoilers:

die or leave

end of spoilers so there's always next week. I'm more concerned about her spoilers:

using a regular arrow

end of spoilers

Who's writing the next issue, anyway?