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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Does Mary have any foes that are exclusively hers? What about Freddie?
    Reading through the first volume of the Ordway series, Captain Nazi is one for Freddy. Haven’t read it all but Madame Libertine seems to be setup as one for Mary.

    Not really villains but there was also their counterparts when Adam has his own family pre-Flashpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Does Mary have any foes that are exclusively hers? What about Freddie?
    Yes Mary had Georgia Sivana
    Freddy had villians such as Captain Nazi, Sivana Jr, The Acrobat, Sabbac, and etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Does Mary have any foes that are exclusively hers?
    I don't know if this counts, but I remember Mistress Mary from JLA Classified #8 (2005):
    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/JLA_Classified_Vol_1_8


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    Based on the story title I guess this is some sort of evil doppelganger. From Earth-3, perhaps?
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    Yeah, that looks like the evil version of Mary from Final Crisis. I doubt that's a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    I don't know if this counts, but I remember Mistress Mary from JLA Classified #8 (2005):
    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/JLA_Classified_Vol_1_8

    Man, I know that costume is intended to be intentionally trashy, but that would absolutely not fly today. Strange to think that was only ten years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Man, I know that costume is intended to be intentionally trashy, but that would absolutely not fly today. Strange to think that was only ten years ago.
    Agree. Mary looks a little surprised at herself, but not too much, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Man, I know that costume is intended to be intentionally trashy, but that would absolutely not fly today. Strange to think that was only ten years ago.
    I kinda feel the same way about Mary's anime short skirt going on there, which I think Supergirl also had something like at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    I kinda feel the same way about Mary's anime short skirt going on there, which I think Supergirl also had something like at the time.
    I can't really imagine Mary without a skirt, but the Supergirl fandom kind of became obsessed with pants...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I can't really imagine Mary without a skirt, but the Supergirl fandom kind of became obsessed with pants...
    A skirt's fine, it's a skirt that short that makes me raise an eyebrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    I kinda feel the same way about Mary's anime short skirt going on there, which I think Supergirl also had something like at the time.
    The shortness of the skirt I blame on the artist. The costume itself is fine. To be honest, it's drawn as more of a belt than a skirt in this image... But the evil Mary costume, any way you draw it, that's a dominatrix outfit.

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    To be fair I think in that particular image it's much shorter than it was depicted as in other comics, although I wouldn't say it was that much longer than Post-Crisis Kara's mini-skirt (though admittedly she wore shorts under there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    The shortness of the skirt I blame on the artist. The costume itself is fine. To be honest, it's drawn as more of a belt than a skirt in this image... But the evil Mary costume, any way you draw it, that's a dominatrix outfit.
    That was Giffen and Dematties' joke with Mistress Mary. This isn't the one from Final Crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    I don't know if this counts, but I remember Mistress Mary from JLA Classified #8 (2005):
    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/JLA_Classified_Vol_1_8

    Man, that's cringe. Mary looks upset to even be involved in the image.
    Last edited by Flash Gordon; 10-18-2020 at 07:28 PM.

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    How do you all feel about the crazy ass team Shazam's put together for his Future State Book?

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