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    Default I've never read the comics, but M Day really bothers me

    I've always been a huge X-men fan. I grew up with the animated series and have seen every film 100 times. I've never really been a huge SUPER fan or read any of the comics, but I recently came across the "Decimation" storyline, when I was randomly wikipedia-ing mutants when I was bored.

    This seems like the worst thing that they could ever have done. Who the heck wants to read a comic book about mutants with no powers??? That's what made me fall in love with the x-men in the first place! All of their amazing powers and how cool they were. What the heck do they show in the comics now? Them all sitting around drinking tea? It just doesn't seem feasible to me to continue the story if no one has any powers.

    I have read that some mutants have been re-powered, but hardly any, right?

    What is everyone's reaction to "M-Day" and how have the comics been since then? Didn't it occur in like 2005? I can't imagine 9 years of x-men comics with no powers....

    I really hope everyone gets re-powered again soon. So stupid.

    And Jubilee is a freaking vampire now? WTF?

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    Well a huge amounts of mutants lost their powers but there was the 198 (number of mutant who still have their powers) and over 200 mutants are in marvel currently. Also I like Jubilee as a vampire.

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    First of all, I recommend you read the involved comics before making a decision on their quality, because some of the stories that stemmed from this event are actually quite good (and others, not so good). Anyways, I think you didn't realize that not all mutants were depowered. About 98% percent of mutants were depowered, I think, but I could be off by a few percent. Many of those depowered were non-superhero or villain mutants (the fact that it was mostly X-Men who kept their powers is addressed in X-Factor, I recommend it), although a number of notable X-Men, New X-Men, Brotherhood members, former New Mutants, and others were depowered (such as Jubilee). Some have been repowered (Quicksilver, Rictor) or found another way to fight crime (Jubilee, Dani Moonstar, Prodigy). X-Men comics, for a while, became about survival - the mutant population was dwindling, and as the storyline was titled, mutants were an endangered species. No new mutants were born, until 2012's AvX storyline, which created new mutants (although it did not repower old ones).

    You're welcome to your opinion, but hopefully this information helps enlighten you to other opinions .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmen51085 View Post
    I've always been a huge X-men fan. I grew up with the animated series and have seen every film 100 times. I've never really been a huge SUPER fan or read any of the comics, but I recently came across the "Decimation" storyline, when I was randomly wikipedia-ing mutants when I was bored.

    This seems like the worst thing that they could ever have done. Who the heck wants to read a comic book about mutants with no powers??? That's what made me fall in love with the x-men in the first place! All of their amazing powers and how cool they were. What the heck do they show in the comics now? Them all sitting around drinking tea? It just doesn't seem feasible to me to continue the story if no one has any powers.

    I have read that some mutants have been re-powered, but hardly any, right?

    What is everyone's reaction to "M-Day" and how have the comics been since then? Didn't it occur in like 2005? I can't imagine 9 years of x-men comics with no powers....

    I really hope everyone gets re-powered again soon. So stupid.

    And Jubilee is a freaking vampire now? WTF?
    Dont worry, the Decimation storyline was about depowering the mutants as a race, and just like 200 mutants kept their powers, i.e. almost all the x-men and most of the villains, and for 7 years, until the Avengers vs X-men event/story, the stories were about that the survival of those 200 mutants, the x-men splitting in two groups, cyclops' and wolverine's teams, a fight that had lasted until today, and the mutants as a race were re-powered by the Phoenix force.

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    It was largely a pretty bad idea. There have been a couple of decent stories out of it, but on the whole the period since House of M has had some of the worst X-Men writing, and some really terrible editorial decisions.

    One of the biggest problems with it is that it wipes out a huge pool of potential villains, which makes the stories that can be told less interesting. It also led to a bunch of increasingly silly stories to explain why various named mutants who did lose their powers suddenly got them back when someone actually wanted to write about them.

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    Yeah, worst period in X-Men history ever. Not to mention it derailed the Scarlet Witch's character big time.

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    It was a great event because it had a lasting impact. So many events and crossovers come and go and these earth shattering things are soon forgotten but house of M had a massive impact on the marvel universe that was explored in both good and bad ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmen51085 View Post
    This seems like the worst thing that they could ever have done. Who the heck wants to read a comic book about mutants with no powers??? That's what made me fall in love with the x-men in the first place! All of their amazing powers and how cool they were. What the heck do they show in the comics now? Them all sitting around drinking tea? It just doesn't seem feasible to me to continue the story if no one has any powers.
    In my opinion, it was a terrible and transparently editorially-mandated idea that was the catalyst for the ruination of the X-line and the worst possible thing they could have done at the time. Sorry if that sounds hyperbolic.

    My memory is a little fuzzy on the exact timeline, but a little bit before the HoM/Decimation storyline, some of the most interesting stuff to happen to the X-books in years was happening. There were fresh stories that touched on mutants finding their place in the world and finding their culture and identity. Some great stories were being told with great characters, and the line wasn't nearly as bloated as it would become. I think Decimation ruined everything.

    It forcibly crammed the mutants back into a 1960s-ish status quo, and I feel like it painted them into a corner. The "only 198 mutants arepowered..but most of them are the popular ones!" felt false and convenient to me, and it dragged on too long. Also, this is not necessarily a direct result of HoM, but the X-line seems to have become far more bloated and directionless since then. Even when there were multiple X-books before, each seemed to have a core cast and premise or purpose for existing. After HoM there just seemed to be numerous books and one shots and mini-series that all seemed to go nowhere. The casts overlapped and the stories covered a lot of the same ground/none at all. While Uncanny used to be the flagship book with the others being niche titles, they just kinda started blurring together. I could no longer find and follow the "core" story because there didn't seem to be one. It felt just pointless. In addition to issues with the focus and premise, I feel the quality of writing also declined.

    I have no idea if this was due to editorial interference, subjective tastes, or if I had just become jaded. This combined with other factors for (another discussion for another day) eventually led to me dropping the X books from my pull list after on/off 20 years. It's kind of sad, but I don't miss what it had become.
    And Jubilee is a freaking vampire now? WTF?
    I know, right? :P

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    I thought it really limited the scope of the x-comics and served to make the xmen almost irrelevant. I mean, it didn't even feel like they represented minorities anymore because the chance of meeting a mutant would be almost impossible.

    Plus, just about every de powered mutant was repowered as soon as possible

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    I love Jubilee as a vampire! Don't dis the fanged one! :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzflower92 View Post
    Yeah, worst period in X-Men history ever. Not to mention it derailed the Scarlet Witch's character big time.
    Cany anyone think of One of the fixes, to Joes genies ( Joe Q's per t peaves) that made for better books? We ended up with things like Decimation, the Civil War and OMD

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    Please read before you speculate. The story is out, it's not hard to get your hands on it, even if it means sitting at Barnes and Noble and reading it over some Starbucks.

    It didn't mean the X-Men titles were about powerless mutants. It just trimmed the fat on the grossly absurd amount of mutants -- especially the ones who I think sucked. It really tried to trim the mutants back to the "core" group. I couldn't get into the X titles for such a long time because the mutants just became so bizarre. This tried to eliminate that, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyatcbr View Post
    Please read before you speculate. The story is out, it's not hard to get your hands on it, even if it means sitting at Barnes and Noble and reading it over some Starbucks.

    It didn't mean the X-Men titles were about powerless mutants. It just trimmed the fat on the grossly absurd amount of mutants -- especially the ones who I think sucked. It really tried to trim the mutants back to the "core" group. I couldn't get into the X titles for such a long time because the mutants just became so bizarre. This tried to eliminate that, IMO.
    Pretty much this, except for the fact that you can more or less ignore M-day at this point an move forward. So, really, reading the stories isn't even necessary at this point.

    The X-men have other excitement on thier plates these days, and random new mutants are back on the table. So if you didn't read the interim stories (I didn't, for the most part), then you needn't fuss over them now.

    Pick up some of the newer X-books and just enjoy. 'Wolverine and the X-men', 'X-men', 'All New X-factor' and 'Amazing X-men' are all brilliant titles at the moment!

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    I don't feel that it was a particularly well done concept, but some creators truly made lemonade with it. David Hine, for example, had a few series that truly engaged with the concept and how it could effect the wider Marvel Universe as a whole. Unfortunately, he wasn't allowed to follow through with his plans. Peter David also used it to great effect in X-Factor.

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    I still need to read it but I like how there are all these new mutants showing up and who Cyclops is now compared to who he was before...

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