[SPOILERS] Doomsday Clock & DC’s Continuity in Justice League #39

[sifighter]

I don’t think it means Doomsday Clock is out of continuity or an alternate reality. If that were true then Wonder Woman #750 which Snyder wrote part of wouldn’t make sense, Bendis wouldn’t be using the Kents, and The JSA wouldn’t be appearing in Shazam. I think it’s more of acknowledgement that something is wrong when it comes to cohesive existence and timeline when taken into account that things don’t fit together. For example in Justice League it’s written that Aquaman’s been believed to bed and just reappeared in the Doom War, but that’s not what is going on in his solo series where he at the same time the sigil went up he’s fighting Black Manta. Or Action Comics where somehow Apex Lex and the Legion of Doom are teaming up with Leviathan to attack Metropolis when that doesn’t add up to when that’d even be happening in this story. It’s acknowledging hey not all the stories are lining up even though they all effect continuity or stories.

[superduperman]

I'm gonna chalk this more up to writers simply not being on the same page with each other more than anything else. My guess is that DDC #12 hadn't even come out yet when this was being written and Snyder was only told of the events. Not necessarily where they fit into continuity. It's also kind of vague. It wouldn't surprise me if DDC was more like COIE in that what the characters remember and what the readers remember are two different things. Only those heroes that participated in it remember it. Keep in mind, writers working on their own books probably get most of their information about "event" books from in house. So whatever they are told is whatever they incorporate into their books. If Snyder was told this doesn't "count" then that's probably how he's going to treat it. My guess is, Manhattan changed things so that DDC never happened. This might be what Snyder was told and he wrote it that way. Remember all the problems early on with New 52? How the trades had to go back and rewrite certain things because they referenced the pre-Flashpoint continuity?

[Cmbmool]

So clark was superboy without legion. Well, that's boring.

And annoying given that could have given Clark the company he needs before the JLA.

[Digifiend]

The JSA wouldn’t be appearing in Shazam.

They're not.

[sifighter]

They're not.

No I am saying that if DDC didn't matter or DC considers it an elseworld story then they would not allow Geoff Johns to write them into his current Shazam ongoing.

[Digifiend]

They're not. The JSA haven't appeared and aren't solicited to appear in Shazam. They've only appeared in Justice League and Doomsday Clock recently.

[sifighter]

They're not. The JSA haven't appeared and aren't solicited to appear in Shazam. They've only appeared in Justice League and Doomsday Clock recently.

https://www.newsarama.com/48752-geof...shazam-10.html

They will be in issue 14 in the storyline involving Superboy Prime

[Superlad93]

The answer is Hyper Time (or something like it).

But it won't matter for too much longer because, as issue 39 stated, they're about to unify the timelines and make it all count and fit in some way.

And for those interested, DiDio has confirmed that when they enter Doomsday Clock into the timeline, it will be altered to have not happened exactly as we read it. So, take that however you like.

[Eto]

Smh, none of this would have happened if Snyder/Bendis/King just didn't try to jinx DDC with making it all the more confusing. Nevertheless, DDC delays aren't fogivable of course (then again, we still don't know what happened BTS with Johns and DC).

[Mr.B]

Several books don't match up. But they did hint at multiple timelines and hypertime.

I did read monthes ago Snyder would collapse the hypertime at some point in a last ditch effort.

Only thing left is the old Gods.

[KangMiRae]

Several books don't match up. But they did hint at multiple timelines and hypertime.

I did read monthes ago Snyder would collapse the hypertime at some point in a last ditch effort.

Only thing left is the old Gods.

DDC #12 mentioned Time Masters, too. Never heard of them, but they sound like they could affect timelines.

[Mr.B]

DDC #12 mentioned Time Masters, too. Never heard of them, but they sound like they could affect timelines.

Time masters are old and will affect real time year 2025.

The next JL arc ignores Snyders stuff.

[sifighter]

I just remembered Hell Arisen #1 with Rip Hunter, this scene makes a lot more sense now that the actual story is over and involves a Time Master. I guess maybe it should have been delayed to make more sense, hence probably why I made a hell arisen #2 weird time thread.

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[Mr.B]

Yeah. Have to see Hell Arisen and Death Metal wrap up.

[sifighter]

Yeah. Have to see Hell Arisen and Death Metal wrap up.

See I am not a fan of that. Not that I don't like the story or that I'm not interested in 5G or the Snyder event but the reading order for this entire story now looks like this:
1. The Justice League by snyder before Doom War
2. Superman/Batman Infected Story arc (to explain the Secret Six thing going on in Hell Arisen)
3. Doom War in Justice League
4. Hell Arisen
5. Then Death Metal (?)

See this at times is why I prefer my independent universes because those stories will generally end in their respective series they started in. Or at the very least I would have accepted that the event with Justice league having to fix time start releasing soon afterward or something.