Birds of Prey Reactions

[Midvillian1322]

And we can't have a movie being fun because it is too "Marvelish"? Really? Your bias is showing as usual. What's next someone makes a joke would that be " Marvelish" too? Because than i have bad News for you…


Will watch the movie but i hope it is more than just Harley and the rest like in the Squad movie or the X-men movies. hope the rest of the Team gets more to do than Psylocke in Apocalypse for example

From reviews I saw it's the Harley show but Cannery gets alot of time and Cassie/Huntress get serviceable amount of development. Montoya gets the short stick but I dont think that's gonna bother anyone. Anyway sounds like its definetly a Harley movie but the rest the team get a fair amount of development and screen time.

The reviews changed my mind, I was gonna see it eventually cause I got that AMC movie pass buts now I'll make room opening weekend.

[kjn]

Haven’t Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel already proven that?

They did. But part of the structural and pervasive nature of patriarchy is that the memory for women's accomplishments tends to be extremely short, and one failure can easily erase a string of prior successes.

[kjn]

I think Wonder Woman definitely led the way, while Captain Marvel did great too in terms of box office performance. However, I still don't know whether Captain Marvel did well because it was the film before Endgame and was marketed as being a must see because of the tie in. I think we won't know the true popularity of the character until the second film. Also, there needs to be a trend to really bash away the narrative that female films won't do well, it'll take more than just two films.

"She wrote it, but she had help." (Joanna Russ, How to Suppress Women's Writing)

There are lots of Marvel films that have made a lot worse than Captain Marvel. Did Captain Marvel get some help from being part of the MCU? Sure. But $1 billion of help? That it achieved on its own.

ETA: As for the twitter reactions, this sure looks like a Harley Quinn movie (violent Harley edition). If that's a good thing or a bad thing I sure everyone can decide based on their own.

[Beaddle]

They did. But part of the structural and pervasive nature of patriarchy is that the memory for women's accomplishments tends to be extremely short, and one failure can easily erase a string of prior successes.

A lot of this films with female leading characters will do better if they don't obsess or make noise about the fact that they are female leads. what is hurting this female movies today is superficial feminism. They should get a page from Bring it on or the color purple, audiences actually responded to the story of the movie first before realising the characters were women.

If you tell a good story and make a genuine good film, regardless of the gender, things more times than none, falls into place.

[Killerbee911]

They describe the action like John Wick and most reviews say it is fun. That is enough to get me to go see it when I had no real interest in the movie. A consistent complaint is part of the movie is clunky but it sound like once it picks up it is good.

[Username taken]

A lot of this films with female leading characters will do better if they don't obsess or make noise about the fact that they are female leads. what is hurting this female movies today is superficial feminism. They should get a page from Bring it on or the color purple, audiences actually responded to the story of the movie first before realising the characters were women.

If you tell a good story and make a genuine good film, regardless of the gender, things more times than none, falls into place.

The Color Purple?

The Color Purple is a 100% feminist work, both the play and the movie.

It's totally about the African-American female experience.......and domestic abuse, homosexuality and incest.

It's the type of movie that will be labelled an "SJW" work today because of how it made men look pretty terrible.

[lowfyr]

From reviews I saw it's the Harley show but Cannery gets alot of time and Cassie/Huntress get serviceable amount of development. Montoya gets the short stick but I dont think that's gonna bother anyone. Anyway sounds like its definetly a Harley movie but the rest the team get a fair amount of development and screen time.

The reviews changed my mind, I was gonna see it eventually cause I got that AMC movie pass buts now I'll make room opening weekend.

That is a good sign at least. Thanks.

[Beaddle]

The Color Purple?

The Color Purple is a 100% feminist work, both the play and the movie.

It's totally about the African-American female experience.......and domestic abuse, homosexuality and incest.

It's the type of movie that will be labelled an "SJW" work today because of how it made men look pretty terrible.

No.
it is not an SJW movie because the movie told a substantial story about the black experience.it did not make men terrible, it held them accountable for their behaviour.

SJWs got owned for forgetting the color purple when they tried to SJW Speilberg.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-el...d-so-miserably
Elizabeth Banks Gets Dragged Over ‘The Color Purple’



Am sure birds of prey will be fine, so far there are no controversys but more female films needs to go more for the heart than the superficial agenda of hating men to make women feel strong,

[Username taken]

No.
it is not an SJW movie because the movie told a substantial story about the black experience.it did not make men terrible, it held them accountable for their behaviour.

It was the black female experience. Like, I said earlier, it was a feminist work. Most feminist work have substantial stories but some young men (fueled by incel ideology) have taken it upon themselves to get "triggered" when they see anything female led. The folks attacking SJWs have a serious problem with black females or worse still "black, female led even when there's no overt feminist message (see Star Trek Discovery and Watchmen). All this being said, The Daily Beast is a pretty liberal site, so they are very much the SJWs you are referring to.

SJWs got owned for forgetting the color purple when they tried to SJW Speilberg.

I don't know what this means. Elizabeth Banks was trying (and failing) to criticize Spielberg about the lead roles of his movies. Not sure where you're getting your analysis from because Elizabeth Banks is one woman.

Am sure birds of prey will be fine, so far there are no controversys but more female films needs to go more for the heart than the superficial agenda of hating men to make women feel strong,

A movie can be whatever it wants to be about, if the film makers want to make the movie about women kicking men in their dicks while attacking the "patriarchy", then they should go ahead and do it. If people don't like it, then they shouldn't watch it. Full stop. Trying to get creators to "self-censor" themselves because of some whiny cry babies on the internet should never, ever be a thing. I I don't want to believe that most grown men are so fragile to be freaked out by female empowerment.

BoP will be fine but I don't want see a watered down version of the Director's vision. If the movie has a feminist message, than so be it.

[Monkey Genius]

Urgh, I truly am not a fan of this stuff. Have you noticed anytime we hear DC is back on track is because the film in question feels like a Marvel movie?

In general, I agree, and I hate it too. But this one case looks different from a generic Marvel movie. Tonally and visually, this still looks like Suicide Squad. Except, apparently, better.

[Wildling]

Wasnt excited for this but the reviews have swayed me. Seen someone describe it as Tarrentino-esque gore but with JOHN wick quality choreography. Didnt even know this was rated r let alone gonna have that type of action.

During development they said the guy in charge of the action scenes in John Wick movies was on BOP too which is in part why I was looking forward to it already (not very invested in characters not Harley or McGregor's Black Mask but hope to be surprised).

[Comic-Reader Lad]

Wasnt excited for this but the reviews have swayed me. Seen someone describe it as Tarrentino-esque gore but with JOHN wick quality choreography. Didnt even know this was rated r let alone gonna have that type of action.

Does this mean they are gonna let James Gunn go ape **** and make his suicide Squad hard R?

Some people here seem to be upset that Birds of Prey will basically be a Harley Quinn movie.

However, looking over the cast, it would surprise me if it weren't because Harley is likely the best known character to the general public and the only character in the film that has already been in a film. I think it's a pretty smart way to introduce the Birds of Prey concept by tacking it onto a Harley film. Then, they can both go their separate ways in future movies.

Anyway, regarding Suicide Squad: I would be surprised if DC/Warners does NOT go for the R-rating for this. The material demands it, and this is something that DC can do that Marvel-Disney can't. Anyway, I think the R-rating plus Gunn as director would attract the audience to an SS reboot like catnip.

It's such a no-brainer that even a studio executive could see it.

[titanfan]

Obviously nothing is official until the movie is done and rated, but all the various "leak sites" have Suicide Squad 2 being "R-Rated".

[Steel Inquisitor]

No.
it is not an SJW movie because the movie told a substantial story about the black experience.it did not make men terrible, it held them accountable for their behaviour.

SJWs got owned for forgetting the color purple when they tried to SJW Speilberg.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-el...d-so-miserably
Elizabeth Banks Gets Dragged Over ‘The Color Purple’



Am sure birds of prey will be fine, so far there are no controversys but more female films needs to go more for the heart than the superficial agenda of hating men to make women feel strong,

No female lead super-hero has done this.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Some people here seem to be upset that Birds of Prey will basically be a Harley Quinn movie.

However, looking over the cast, it would surprise me if it weren't because Harley is likely the best known character to the general public and the only character in the film that has already been in a film. I think it's a pretty smart way to introduce the Birds of Prey concept by tacking it onto a Harley film. Then, they can both go their separate ways in future movies.

Anyway, regarding Suicide Squad: I would be surprised if DC/Warners does NOT go for the R-rating for this. The material demands it, and this is something that DC can do that Marvel-Disney can't. Anyway, I think the R-rating plus Gunn as director would attract the audience to an SS reboot like catnip.

It's such a no-brainer that even a studio executive could see it.

Iron Man was an unknown. Ant Man was an unknown.

Batman, and his cache of characters? Not unknown.

I don't think being 'known' is an automatic plus. People want something new