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    Default Spider vs Hercules Beetle

    who's stronger?

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    Spider covers a pretty big range of arachnids. Probably take a pretty substantial one to get in a fight with a hercules beetle though
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitVyper View Post
    Spider covers a pretty big range of arachnids. Probably take a pretty substantial one to get in a fight with a hercules beetle though
    we usually talk about Spider's species that used to imparts Spider DNA virally to Peter Parker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masonicon View Post
    we usually talk about Spider's species that used to imparts Spider DNA virally to Peter Parker
    We rarely talk about just spiders here and I don't I've ever seen anybody specifically mention the type of spider that gave Peter his powers.

    More importantly, do we even know if the type of spider was ever specified? In the movies they were genetically modified spiders so that's a no go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    We rarely talk about just spiders here and I don't I've ever seen anybody specifically mention the type of spider that gave Peter his powers.

    More importantly, do we even know if the type of spider was ever specified? In the movies they were genetically modified spiders so that's a no go.
    It was definitely never specified in AF 15. Unless "radioactive spider" is now a species. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masonicon View Post
    who's stronger?

    we're just talking about Real Life animals here
    I would GUESS the beetle: the hercules beetle is pretty large, being the longest beetle, and rhinoceros beetles - of which the herc beetle is one - in general can lift up to 100x (ignore reports claiming 850x, they are crap) their body mass. Spiders aren't generally carriers: they don't bring things back to a nest, they generally consume them where they kill them, and I'm not sure that even the largest spider is as large as a herc beetle.
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    Are we talking JUST strength? Not who would win a fight?

    Got to be the Herc.
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    Largest spider in terms of legspan and mass is the bird spider, a type of tarantula. It can be 12 inches across. I'm just wondering if it is capable of biting through the beetle's shell if they were to fight. I would guess the beetle, ounce for ounce, would be stronger. But then again, the bird spider catches small birds for prey, so it has to have some strength.
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    There's spider species around with some reasonable feats for penetrating various materials. I've heard fingernails and car tires, but I haven't seen any serious data. I expect that there's at least some spiders that could do it.

    It'd be a bit of a weird match that I'm not sure either one would engage in willingly outside of Khazan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    Largest spider in terms of legspan and mass is the bird spider, a type of tarantula. It can be 12 inches across. I'm just wondering if it is capable of biting through the beetle's shell if they were to fight. I would guess the beetle, ounce for ounce, would be stronger. But then again, the bird spider catches small birds for prey, so it has to have some strength.
    I've seen a bird spider in the wild, it's beautiful and impressive but likely not significantly heavier than a herc beetle, and definitely not as physically strong.

    Now, the GRIP strength of certain spiders is much higher then the LIFT strength of a beetle (dung beetles are relatively stronger still then rhino beetles, FWIW), but this seemed to be referring to lift or carry strength, not grip strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Are we talking JUST strength? Not who would win a fight?

    Got to be the Herc.
    we usually talking Just about Strength here
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    So, something like this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    So, something like this?

    yes perhaps
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