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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Literally most of the higher ups are clones..... Their whole resurrection process is just cloning until they have a mutant who can grab souls from the afterlife during the process join the five.
    Except that Doctor Strange has explicitly said with Connors' son that cloned bodies can have the soul of the original perfectly without the need for the process to have mystical elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post

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    Strange sensed a new kind of magic on Krakoa and questioned Cable on what was going on before being interrupted by Magik. I can see Strange wanting to investigate that further.
    end of spoilers
    That whole scene played out like a weird porn parody. But yes, agreed on your thoughts about Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    mutants have always been bitchy that only care about their own circle ,remember when spider man came to the school and everyone groaned collectivly ?
    It shows there is a problem with how mutants operate and they should consider evolving their methods beyond just recruitment.

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    no it shows flatscans are stinky, they have helped tons of times witout getting any in return, not even a bit of consideration or respect, being nice has gotten the x-men nowhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Actually, I could see Arno joining up with them. I can see Reed working with Maker again, but both of them working with Doom? Interested to see how they would write that. I think Namor’s current position of being super aggro + him being willing to join Krakoa may put him off from a team of humans tracking mutants’ movements. And you know what, Savage Avengers #0 actually could give Strange a reason to join a new Illuminati.

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    Strange sensed a new kind of magic on Krakoa and questioned Cable on what was going on before being interrupted by Magik. I can see Strange wanting to investigate that further.
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    And that mutant was named Cerebro.
    IMO, I don't think Namor views himself as a mutant truly. King and Atlantian will always come first, and he's shown he's willing to play monster if need be.

    I read SA, and it's clear that he noticed something. Too much is off for him to not supervise. Strange would likely keep Doom more comfortable working with 2 Reeds. Val being there would be even more beneficial in that regard.

    Would love to see Hydra Cap's reaction to Krakoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    mutants have always been bitchy that only care about their own circle ,remember when spider man came to the school and everyone groaned collectivly ?
    That's just how people react to Spider-Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    no it shows flatscans are stinky, they have helped tons of times witout getting any in return, not even a bit of consideration or respect, being nice has gotten the x-men nowhere
    What does that have to do with Peter Parker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    no it shows flatscans are stinky, they have helped tons of times witout getting any in return, not even a bit of consideration or respect, being nice has gotten the x-men nowhere
    I heard that Strange has been helpful to the mutants, though…
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFlyToFail View Post
    IMO, I don't think Namor views himself as a mutant truly. King and Atlantian will always come first, and he's shown he's willing to play monster if need be.

    I read SA, and it's clear that he noticed something. Too much is off for him to not supervise. Strange would likely keep Doom more comfortable working with 2 Reeds. Val being there would be even more beneficial in that regard.

    Would love to see Hydra Cap's reaction to Krakoa.
    Hydra!Cap reaction to Krakoa would be exactly the same as the one he had with New Attilan, he would use them from scapegoat of all the problems that the world has.


    PD: Most of the superhero community does not like Spider-man. They respect him but find him irritating with his jokes.

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    I think it shows how you are sugesting that the superheroes of the world to react more agressivly to mutants being a bit shady and helping themselves over ever helping mutants in any situation ever, when its the genocide of inocents, it goes well with the avengers protecting anti mutant rallies, hence making the x-men isolating themselves from the other superheroes even more valid

    it would be in characther tho, hypocrisy towards mutants from the rest of the superhero community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Except that Doctor Strange has explicitly said with Connors' son that cloned bodies can have the soul of the original perfectly without the need for the process to have mystical elements.
    Except that Strange himself said that that was so weird and unexpected that he didn't want to look into it. It was the exception to the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    When he was saving everyone on Yancy Street during War of the Realms, he had a monologue about how he was a god and that he is better than all other gods.

    During the early issues of the run, he didn't have this attitude.

    So forgive me if I don't have much hope for this pretender god to be anything more than a self-absorbed piece of ****.
    Franklin has literally met his milleniums old future self, who calls Galactus friend. And that was before he restarted the multiverse.

    You think a teenage kid with that knowledge might be a little bit arrogant - and in need of an attitude adjustment?

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    The worst thing about resurrections are the stupid ones.

    I mean, Cyclops is inmortal, because everytime he dies, it doesnt matter, kid Cable will appear, kill teen Cable and yell "BECAUSEITWASNTFAIRRR"

    I can buy Krakoa method, at least Hickman put work on it beyond overused time travel, the problem is that the system is maintained, so it seems more like a body factory and that gives you the vibe of clones.

    Because X-Men writers cant write stories without killing characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    Except that Strange himself said that that was so weird and unexpected that he didn't want to look into it. It was the exception to the rule.
    Why should we assume that Jackal's technology can do that and a process made by Xavier, Mister Sinister and other geniuses of genetics much smarter than Jackal cannot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    I think it shows how you are sugesting that the superheroes of the world to react more agressivly to mutants being a bit shady and helping themselves over ever helping mutants in any situation ever, when its the genocide of inocents, it goes well with the avengers protecting anti mutant rallies, hence making the x-men isolating themselves from the other superheroes even more valid

    it would be in characther tho, hypocrisy towards mutants from the rest of the superhero community.
    Well, we have precedents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Why should we assume that Jackal's technology can do that and a process made by Xavier, Mister Sinister and other geniuses of genetics much smarter than Jackal cannot.


    Well, we have precedents
    we absolutly do wich makes me just enjoy mutants having a spine for once.

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