X-MEN/FF #1 REVIEW 2.0 (Spoilers)

[Blue22]

Logan is best friends with Power Pack.

Admittedly, I don't follow much of them but I do know of their teamups with Logan. Was Franklin a member during any of that?

[Michael Watkins]

Not to be overly cynical, but we are sure Erik and Charles don’t want Franklin’s power to say, sever the tether between 616 and Moira’s life?

i think they want Franklin's powers to save mutantkind, yes.

[Michael Watkins]

Admittedly, I don't follow much of them but I do know of their teamups with Logan. Was Franklin a member during any of that?

[Maestroneto]

he also plays cards regularly with Ben Grimm.

I hope Zdarsky has a Kate/Ben interaction since they were on the GotG together (and guest-starred in Zdarsky’s Howard the Duck).

[Dthirds3]

Who ever Franklin picks it will be better then the avengers

[Glio]

Good book. Magneto/ Xavier and Reed/Susan flaws are played up a little too much to make drama happen. It is official now Magneto is the worst ambassador in the world bring him to any meeting is a set up for failure he is just going to pick fight and even if you are to pick a fight he is going to over do it.

Other than that book was pretty good and pointing out issues with Krakoa and shining a light on FF mutant problem. What is FF mutant problem you ask well Sue and Reed are those are basically those well intention black parents who raise their kid to not understand the actually world they living in and when the kid has to live without Mom and Dad around or have to interact based on their race the kid is total unprepared for it. As bad Xavier and Magneto look pushing their secret agenda,Reed and Sue look just as bad with what I will call being naive. In real world that black kid gets pulled over by racist cop and is total unprepared for a cop to mistreat him because he is black, In Marvel it is Franklin is a mutant and how much they try to raise him like a normal kid, Sentinels are going to come crash through your door at some point and this book touched on that subtly.

Also I said in the other thread this whole situation is being overplayed drama

A. The book overlooked the point when Franklin becuase coughcoughOnslaughtcoughcough put them in pocket reality and he was chill with Gen X. If there is anybody who the FF should trust with Franklin is the people who took care him some when you were unable to do that.

B. There is no reason for Franklin to have to stay on the island he can be given a portal, There is no reason FF should be super protective of Franklin spending time with other mutants they freaking like Alex Power and Dragon Man in charge of watching a group of minors after a dangerous godlike entity attack them. Franklin jump to Krakoa and back leisurely wouldn't be a big deal compare to that.

Magneto and Xavier are made too much into moustache twirly idiots, When a simple campus tour with Richards family on Krakoa and giving Franklin easy access to Krakoa accomplishes what they wanted. This is still good interesting stuff but too achieve drama Xavier who made a living convincing parents to let him take their child was super pushy and Richards who aren't that hostile was amped to 11 but their anger did make sense as parent.

This post has reminded me, I think it was Dark Reign, in which in an X-Men comic the comic sees how other heroes around the world react to what is happening and Franklin asks his father. "Dad, why do they hate mutants?" and he seems not to know what to answer.

I think Sue and Reed are very good parents in general, but I think you're right. I think Franklin has lived isolated from what it means for him to be a mutant. He's a bit like Carlton in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

[Hi-Fi]

I love Zdarsky's work (still miss Kaptara), so I'm sorry to say I found this a bit boring and basic. Not bad, just predictable. :/

[spirit2011]

Not to be overly cynical, but we are sure Erik and Charles don’t want Franklin’s power to say, sever the tether between 616 and Moira’s life?

they need the power sooner than later. Something like this make sense

This post has reminded me, I think it was Dark Reign, in which in an X-Men comic the comic sees how other heroes around the world react to what is happening and Franklin asks his father. "Dad, why do they hate mutants?" and he seems not to know what to answer.

I think Sue and Reed are very good parents in general, but I think you're right. I think Franklin has lived isolated from what it means for him to be a mutant.

I disagree. a gene doesn't make a culture

[JB]

This was so much fun. I haven't read much of the FF in recent years but they sound great. Franklin and Val are stars.

I loved all of it. The history between characters and the back and forth. Excellent work.

P.S. I kinda wanted to see Pyro wake Ororo up with fire.

[justanotherclassic]

First of all, I like the art and coloring. I loved how deeply the theme of family was felt. The X-team still felt a bit...much...to me, but the dynamic between Kitty and Franklin was wonderful and caring. Val in the end was also solid.

Also, everyone was making stupid decisions that were not at all tactical, which is incredibly frustrating. Sue going directly for the forcefield was a bit much, but my god, the X-Men coalition that came was also poor decision-making. Sending Kitty alone would have been better. Or even offer to help Reed with Franklin's powers, pull a Palpatine and subtly influence Franklin to your side from there.

As it stands, I still fall more on the side of the F4 because Franklin is a minor and their kid. Reed monumentally screwed up, yes, but everyone acknowledges that. Franklin is a mutant, but as Reed said, he can make the decision to live in Krakoa in a few years when he is an adult.

[Glio]

they need the power sooner than later. Something like this make sense



I disagree. a gene doesn't make a culture

Ok, Havok.

[Ferro]

just clone a mini franklin and raise him proud krakoan

[Malachi]

Dialouge heavy issue. So how is the dialouge. Well above average I would say. 7/10 perhaps. Sometimes weak and cringey but othertiems effecient and sharp. "You got a timetable, and that's why I'm suspicious" was my favorite since it actually gave us a new angle after all the mandatory "Mutants together" and "my family!" stuff. I think it framed the discussion in a better light.

The art is Terry Dodson and I frankly have grown a bit tired of it. But that is a subjective opinion. Overall it was very uneven. Some panels are crisp and good composition. Others are treated as blurry unfocused events that looks like something I would draw. I wonder how much stress was involved or if it's on the inker. Still that inker is his wife so It should be safe to assume that it's as intended.

I have stopped reading marauders but does this Kitty work with that Kate? She felt like a Kitty from some years ago for me.

Her connection to Franklin felt too strong. I can buy that there is a connection and Franklin is in a pressured situation. Still it felt too strong, too fast.

I liked the scene where Ben and Franklin talked. I think that felt the most true to character. While some others where forced due to the need for drama.

Did not like Doom at the end. I used to like him but after Secret Wars I'm tired of him.

EDIT: Laura would have been an inspired chocie for this book. Lets hope she appears.

[yogaflame]

Everyone else, though, just looked like hired muscle for Charles and Erik. Which is a shame given Storm's relationship with the F4. She would have actually been more helpful on the diplomatic side than Erik, who honestly should have sat this out.

A more thoughtful approach from the Krakoans would have been to send Ororo with T'Challa and Kate, have them escort the whole FF to the island and tour them around together. But then we wouldn't get a fun superhero tussle as easily. It is a shame they barely acknowledged Ororo's relationship to the FF(she and Ben's conversation did telegraph a familiarity and level of respect), which is the most developed of all the X-Men really.

[Vegan Daddy]

Franklin should take a selfie with •-[A]-• and send it to dad.