Dc should really respect and restore the legacy of Batgirl and what it means.

[Cmbmool]

I find it annoying to how DC views the many versions of male Robins and how each of them have a title to themselves, but where is that for Batgirl or any female Robin ?

Seriously DC should definitely make a mini series which restores the Batgirl mantel and Cass and Steph’s place within the Batman family.

That and the movie of BOP and how it makes Cass not Cassandra Cain like from the comics. I’ve heard of difference from the films and comics, but that’s a step too far. Especially when you learn that the actress playing Cass has knowledge of what Cassandra Cain is supposed to be via comic book reading.

As fans of Batgirl and her true overall history: Do you think that DC should at least make an effort to restore things with what they used to be ?

Also I want to see Cassandra and Stephanie mourn Alfred too in their own way.

[Restingvoice]

Ideally yeah, but based on what I knew about DC, this is one of those things that go under Old Management Need To Go First

and I'm not waiting. Except for select issues or classic stories I already left.

[Vakanai]

Eh, Babs is back to being Batgirl, and she's gotten a push in animation, that seems pretty respectful.

[Cmbmool]

Eh, Babs is back to being Batgirl, and she's gotten a push in animation, that seems pretty respectful.

Yet at the cost of the importance of the Oracle ID and Cass and Stephanie pushes into being better heroines.

[Godlike13]

The only Batgirl with out a title right now is Steph.

[Digifiend]

The only Batgirl with out a title right now is Steph.

Not true: she just joined Young Justice.

[Vakanai]

Yet at the cost of the importance of the Oracle ID and Cass and Stephanie pushes into being better heroines.

The Oracle ID isn't iconic not as important. And while Steph and Cass have their fans, just like Tim sometimes you have to accept that these secondary characters will go through rough times. It just is. But Batgirl as a singular character and title is getting respect. The Oracle title and the secondary former Batgirls not so much, but that is a different complaint.

[Pohzee]

That wasn't what Batgirl meant when it was made. Robin wasn't created as a legacy mantle either. They were characters. I wouldn't wish upon Batgirl the fate of the "Robins."

[Gotham citizen]

I find it annoying to how DC views the many versions of male Robins and how each of them have a title to themselves, but where is that for Batgirl or any female Robin ?

Seriously DC should definitely make a mini series which restores the Batgirl mantel and Cass and Steph’s place within the Batman family.

That and the movie of BOP and how it makes Cass not Cassandra Cain like from the comics. I’ve heard of difference from the films and comics, but that’s a step too far. Especially when you learn that the actress playing Cass has knowledge of what Cassandra Cain is supposed to be via comic book reading.

As fans of Batgirl and her true overall history: Do you think that DC should at least make an effort to restore things with what they used to be ?

Also I want to see Cassandra and Stephanie mourn Alfred too in their own way.

In my humble opinion the problem is: can the writers create a story concept with Spoiler of Orphan (Batgirl/Barbara has her solo series) enough strong to support a title? Can they write stories with them good enough to assure good sales?
Titles like "Red Hood and the Outlaw", Batgirl, Nightwing the writers were able to do that, so these title exist, but with Spoiler and Orphan it seems it will never happen because in order to have a regular title, the writers should change the way they think about the Bat-family and the interactions of its character, but it seems they aren't able to do that and to me it is a pity because they are good character; especially Spoiler.

Yet at the cost of the importance of the Oracle ID and Cass and Stephanie pushes into being better heroines.

I agree: Barbara was a better character when she was Oracle and her impossibility to be Batgirl gave the opportunity to the writers to better develop the characters of Stephanie and Cassie.

[Flash Gordon]

Babs is Batgirl, and she's great. She's deeply iconic and her book is a lot of fun.

The sooner the Killing Joke is forgotten, the better- and that includes Oracle. I like Cassandra Cain but Black Bat is a great alias for her. Steph is Spoiler, no need to be Batgirl.

[adrikito]

But Unfortunatelly they don´t respect it..

Steph only appeared in Young Justice because is Tim girlfriend... Bendis even confirmed in one interview that he CAN´T make BIG THINGS with her for DC FAULT

And now look the BIRDS OF PREY.. HARLEY is here.. WTF? Why her? She is everywhere.. That was one good chance for Steph and Cass who is her friend is here. I am even happy to listen this because I am tired of Harley:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/09/m...ice/index.html


Steph can be relevant in YOUNG JUSTICE but neither in other comics

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

There's always a Batgirl Eternal .

[Cmbmool]

DCeased Unkillables #1 shows just how we are reminded of Cassandra Cain Batgirl and how she can exist alongside to deceased Barbara Gordon Batgirl. What I'm trying to say is that there is more room in the main DCU for more than one Batgirl going on in Gotham, right ?

[Aahz]

Also I want to see Cassandra and Stephanie mourn Alfred too in their own way.

Honestly I don't think that Stephanie was that close to Alfred, and imo even Barbara is out of place there.


When it comes to Birds of Prey, I think that IP is in a pretty bad shape and they need probably a really strong writer and a fresh take on bring it back on track.

[Godlike13]

BoP probably wouldn’t even use Oracle now.