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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresh View Post
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    How do we fix Alfred now? How do we bring him back in a year or two without cheap tricks, and still making Bruce someone not so depensant of him?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sergard View Post
    Easy. Bane killed a clone and imprisoned the real Alfred.
    Bruce marries Selina and is now dependent on her instead of Alfred. Problem solved.
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    Almost.
    Alfred IS Bane!
    And the dead guy was a Joker wannabe, infiltrating the Wayne family.
    Quote Originally Posted by bob.schoonover View Post
    It was an actor hired to replace Alfred by Norman Osborn that was killed!
    No, Bruce Wayne had a car crash and went into a coma, so the entire King's run was a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham citizen View Post
    No, Bruce Wayne had a car crash and went into a coma, so the entire King's run was a nightmare.
    Wish I could say the same for the Superman run, but it would take more than a car crash to put Clark into a coma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Wish I could say the same for the Superman run, but it would take more than a car crash to put Clark into a coma.
    Well, there are a few villains than can put people into hallucinatory states/false realities, aren't there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Wish I could say the same for the Superman run, but it would take more than a car crash to put Clark into a coma.
    He was hit by a meteorite containing some Kryptonite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Wish I could say the same for the Superman run, but it would take more than a car crash to put Clark into a coma.
    That Nightmare was created by Doctor Destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham citizen View Post
    No, Bruce Wayne had a car crash and went into a coma, so the entire King's run was a nightmare.
    I don't need Bruce to have a car crash to know that King's run was a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham citizen View Post
    He was hit by a meteorite containing some Kryptonite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    That Nightmare was created by Doctor Destiny.
    Yes to both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergard View Post
    Easy. Bane killed a clone and imprisoned the real Alfred.
    Bruce marries Selina and is now dependent on her instead of Alfred. Problem solved.
    And Selina was a clone too! Ha ha!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Almost.
    Alfred IS Bane!
    And the dead guy was a Joker wannabe, infiltrating the Wayne family.
    Oh, the twist! Or, better yet: this Alfred was a bad guy pretending to be him since the previous time he was dead and came back as a bad guy (that happened, right? A long time ago?). But! But the twist of the twist was, that OG Alfred was actually a bad guy himself, a double agent for the Ghouls (or something). And now, Talia gfts Bruce a new, younger Alfred, with, er... With the memories of the second Alfred that in the end grew fond of the family, with a clone of the OG Alfred. Who happened to be exactly the same as the second, because he was a martian all along!

    Quote Originally Posted by bob.schoonover View Post
    It was an actor hired to replace Alfred by Norman Osborn that was killed!
    You know, jokes aside, the easy way would have been having Clayman replace Alfred by Bruce hand. But they want Alfred to be dead, so I guess they disregarded that plot. Now* it's not a choice, because clearly it wasn't something planned by any of the bats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotham citizen View Post
    No, Bruce Wayne had a car crash and went into a coma, so the entire King's run was a nightmare.
    Ah, the classic "It was a dream all along."
    I think this could have worked for Nightwing if the writers were more subtle and allowed/willing to experiment with the story and the format of the comic. Or if Dick were drawn out of any other interaction with the other characters in other books before he would've waken up from the coma, with or without remaining dissociation problems.

    And then, you could have used Scarecrow for this for example (I know the post was talking about Superman):

    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    Well, there are a few villains than can put people into hallucinatory states/false realities, aren't there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergard View Post
    I don't need Bruce to have a car crash to know that King's run was a nightmare
    Good one XD.
    Last edited by Zaresh; 03-08-2020 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresh View Post
    You know, jokes aside, the easy way would have been having Clayman replace Alfred by Bruce hand. But they want Alfred to be dead, so I guess they disregarded that plot. Not it's not a choice, because clearly it wasn't something planned by any of the bats.
    Or ... Bruce staged Alfred's death and Alfred is now undercover as double agent while the rest of the family is mourning him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergard View Post
    Oh, okay. I thought you meant something from current continuity.



    I.
    Accurate objective citation needed plz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergard View Post
    Or ... Bruce staged Alfred's death and Alfred is now undercover as double agent while the rest of the family is mourning him.
    That could be too.
    Not like it wouldn't be even the first time in the most recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Accurate objective citation needed plz.
    For what exactly?

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