The Box Office

[Gaastra]

Jungle cruise ww $61m. Disney for the second time posted numbers for access of $30m. Expect access to drop like a rock like bw did next week with all the bootlegs out and no numbers from disney.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ht-1234991247/

[inisideguy]

Jungle cruise ww $61m. Disney for the second time posted numbers for access of $30m. Expect access to drop like a rock like bw did next week with all the bootlegs out and no numbers from disney.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ht-1234991247/

I see what you did there

[Gaastra]

Belle made $30m in japan. Anime is still king there. G kids plans to release the film in america.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...t-no.2/.175813

Think digimon, your name and batb mixed from the trailer.

[inisideguy]

Hey some interesting news today. Black Widow just became the #1 domestic movie of the year passing F9.

[Gaastra]

With hbo max killing it's repeat viewers in theatres this film needed to do well first week. Great rt score and reviews but had a R rating as well.

Joker still did well with r so how about ss2?

Birds of prey made more opening weekend!

When i saw all the youtubers watching it on hbo max and not theatres i knew it was in trouble.

https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-sui...ax-1234810359/

Saturday AM Update: Warner Bros.’ latest The Suicide Squad is coming in at a $12.1M opening day at 4,002 theaters, which includes $4.1M Thursday previews, for what what will be an industry estimated 3-day in the mid-to-high $20M range which is under the $30M that Warner Bros and others were eyeing.

On tracking, even weeks ago, many were telling me that the James Gunn-directed DC film was looking like the studio’s featherless Birds of Prey which opened to a lackluster $33M, and well, here’s The Suicide Squad. Many were expecting fan front-loading, with an expected Saturday drop. Exhibition clearly knew this ahead of time when they spotted the weekend’s weight of ticket sales on Thursday night and Friday.

Some continue to wonder whether the delta variant is the contributing factor here in further upsetting the grosses for Suicide Squad, a movie which won over critics at 92% certified fresh; the best reviewed in the DC villain ensemble trilogy. It’s an easy excuse to make in a marketplace where some studios continue to fool around with the dynamic window. Warners isn’t sorry about sticking with their HBO Max/theatrical plan after recent New York Times headlines about restaurants struggling, and WSJ reporting a dip in travel despite an earlier summer boom. Granted, there is a mixed message out there about the surging variant, particularly since we haven’t returned to lockdown, and kids are heading back to college to stay in dorms. We continue to live and manage life with the virus. Of those I’ve spoken to in the industry, no one is really expecting the vaccine card mandate in NYC or LA to effect business.

Here’s the unfortunate hard truth despite Warner Bros.’ best intentions to get a vibrant, zany, and fun filmmaker like Gunn to resuscitate the Suicide Squad brand: For weeks, many read the tea leaves and saw that The Suicide Squad was destined to have a bad time at the B.O.; that the movie had bigger inherent problems: It’s hard to rebound a franchise, even with an installment that has excellent reviews and a great director, after the first 2016 film wasn’t received well by fans, and the follow-up Birds of Prey even significantly less-so.


Gunn’s Suicide Squad arrives with a B+ CinemaScore, the same grade as David Ayer’s Suicide Squad and the 2020 spinoff Birds of Prey. Posttrak at 83% positive was higher than the first Suicide Squad which was 73% positive, and it nabbed four stars and a 62% recommend like Birds of Prey. Gunn’s Suicide Squad also saw the under 25 audience at 34% giving the film an A- and 63% of the under 35 demo also bestowing an A- (By the way, the first Suicide Squad also earned an A- among the under 35, however, they turned out at 76% the first time around). But when you’re giving the film out for free to HBO Max subscribers, it’s hard to translate that good word of mouth into bucks on a Saturday night. Part of what propped Disney’s grosses up at the box office on Black Widow and Jungle Cruise, is the fact that they’re at least charging for each title at $29.99 a pop (the business notion is, as weak as it is, that the in-home price is more expensive than the average price of a movie ticket, which will hopefully persuade people to see it on the big screen. Still, $29.99 is quite the bargain for even a family of three).

Also, many will argue that marketing dropped the ball here in not distinguishing the pic’s title: Is it a sequel? It is a reboot? What message are we trying to transmit to the consumer? Even if the number ‘2’ wasn’t in the title, add some more words in the title to indicate a purely different film in the series, i.e. ‘The Suicide Squad Goes To The Jungle’. Anything. If Warners was looking for a reboot, then that would have entailed switching out all the characters in the movie, which would have meant leaving Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn out.

https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-sui...ax-1234810359/

[luprki]

Looks like streaming is becoming even bigger than I thought it would be.

[Tofali]

Looks like streaming is becoming even bigger than I thought it would be.

we don't know that. they used the same excuse to scapegoat HBO Max for In The Heights flopping but when streaming numbers was announced it showed that even there it wasn't doing good, so lets wait and see before we conclude that streaming is taking over.

[Kirby101]

Looks like streaming is becoming even bigger than I thought it would be.

Looks like the surge of COVID from the Delta variant is hurting theaters.

Your myopic viewpoint is ever apparent.

[luprki]

Looks like the surge of COVID from the Delta variant is hurting theaters.

Your myopic viewpoint is ever apparent.

Either way it’s another blow to theaters, just how many blows they can take.

[chicago_bastard]

Either way it’s another blow to theaters, just how many blows they can take.

It's a blow to the studios who chose that failing model of a day and date release. Every movie released that way is losing them money and that's why they will stop it. Warner has already stated that their movie slate next year will have an exclusive theatrical window and Disney will already implement the theatrical window with Shang-Chi next month so your conclusions couldn't be farther from the truth.

[CliffHanger2]

So if streaming isn't cutting into theater profits why are theater owners mad? And it's all profit for disney and the like when they stream. While they have to share profits with theaters without streaming. So how are they losing money?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6WM-7x_y41vCeK

[Kirby101]

So if streaming isn't cutting into theater profits why are theater owners mad? And it's all profit for disney and the like when they stream. While they have to share profits with theaters without streaming. So how are they losing money?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6WM-7x_y41vCeK

Yes, they are. Trolls was unique, it was the first big family movie right after COVID got bad, and parents were desperate to entertain their kids. It has been unmatched since. No movie has made near that streaming. And the Studios have a finite income from the streaming services. Unless a new movie gives them new subscribers, their really isn't any profit from the hundreds of millions these movies cost. Nothing in streaming is giving them the near billion dollar Box Office that these movies brought before COVID.

[CliffHanger2]

Yes, they are. Trolls was unique, it was the first big family movie right after COVID got bad, and parents were desperate to entertain their kids. It has been unmatched since. No movie has made near that streaming. And the Studios have a finite income from the streaming services. Unless a new movie gives them new subscribers, their really isn't any profit from the hundreds of millions these movies cost. Nothing in streaming is giving them the near billion dollar Box Office that these movies brought before COVID.

Yeah but they aren't getting that whole billion. I think the first few weeks it's a 60/40 split between studios and theaters. Then it decreases after that. Studios get what 20% to 40% of the international gross.

[Username taken]

Yes, they are. Trolls was unique, it was the first big family movie right after COVID got bad, and parents were desperate to entertain their kids. It has been unmatched since. No movie has made near that streaming. And the Studios have a finite income from the streaming services. Unless a new movie gives them new subscribers, their really isn't any profit from the hundreds of millions these movies cost. Nothing in streaming is giving them the near billion dollar Box Office that these movies brought before COVID.

This basically.

Streaming just can't provide the revenue that the studios get from box office.

[Castle]

Looks like streaming is becoming even bigger than I thought it would be.

Dont worry. it wont overtake big budget movies that are made for cinema. What chances are there that James Cameron is ever going to put Avatar 2.3 on streaming or MCU is ever going to put their first X-MEN and Fantastic 4 movie on Disney plus? zero percent.

There is just too much hype to loose, not even money anymore. The only thing streaming will do convincedly well is to take over the quality part. while other studios films that will go to cinema, will be all about the quantity.