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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Ah, think I understand that. Still action blockbusters, but slower burn action blockbusters. I...miss those kinds of movies. The MCU is nice, but lord I need something less fast and quippy to contrast that while staying in the action genre.
    Like LOTR? (Though they are more fantasy/adventure movies than action, action-adventure maybe?) Everyone praises them but I for the life of me can't get through them without getting bored. At times it feels like I'm watching New Zealand travel ad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom'nGloom View Post
    Like LOTR? (Though they are more fantasy/adventure movies than action, action-adventure maybe?) Everyone praises them but I for the life of me can't get through them without getting bored. At times it feels like I'm watching New Zealand travel ad.
    I think the problem wasn't that they were slow burn but long. Slow burn movies are great at an hour and a half to two hours long, but 3 hours? You need a faster pace to go that long.
    I loved the Lord of the Rings when I first saw them. Think I watched them twice. But I don't try to rewatch them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    I do miss slow burn blockbusters. This is what James Cameron is so great at just from a good artistic level and I just cannot help but post this scene from titanic as the perfect definition.



    We don't see this kind of blockbusters anymore. they are slow burn but it is worth the wait.

    It is darm shame because Cameron only makes a movie once every like 10-20 years now and Spielberg seems over blockbusters, but the Titanic kind of Blockbusters need to come back.
    There were some semi-slow burn action films still after that, at least compared to MCU's pace. The Dark Knight was relatively slower paced for the action/superhero genre. Helped that it clearly took inspiration from crime dramas though.

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    Finally caught "Malignant"..ugh. It was terrible IMO.

    It's tone was all over the place and was unintentionally funny. I can see why it got such a low cinemascore from audiences, the movie was a misfire.

    I love James Wan's stuff but this was really disappointing, maybe I went in with too high expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Dune highest opening film this year in france. Film hits $35,000 on only 33 screens! Dune off to a good start.

    https://www.screendaily.com/news/dun...163334.article
    This is one of the few movies left this year that I'm looking forward to. Denis Villeneuve is yet to let me down.

    Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic and was really better than the first movie. Prisoners was solid, Sicario was brilliant and the Arrival was really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago_bastard View Post
    I think European audiences are more open to - for lack of a better word - artsy blockbusters without your usual fast pacing, humor and non-stop action. Villeneuve's prior movie BR 2049 made more money in the UK, France, and Germany than smaller MCU movies whereas its US gross was far lower than even that of The Incredible Hulk and that one's US result is already poor compared to the rest of the MCU.

    Regarding that and the day and date HBO Max release I'd be surprised if Dune reached 100 million USD at the US box office. Hope I'm wrong as I really want to see the sequel get made.



    What is David Bowie's connection to Dune?
    None I'm seeing. I don't know how or when that buried itself in my brain.

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    I can see why it got such a low cinemascore from audiences
    Nah it wasn't that bad as far as horror movies go. Hereditary got a D while critics liked it. Ari Aster then directed Midsommar, which for some reason moved the needle up to a C score despite being pretty gross at times and not exactly having a happy ending.

    As far as expectations having anything to do with it, the trailer sold being more of another house apparition story and kept the Cronenberg and stuff elements completely out of it. Personally I was already having my suspicions, starting with the movie name and having watched a number of horror stories. A Stephen King one here, an X-Files or Monsters episode there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildling View Post
    None I'm seeing. I don't know how or when that buried itself in my brain.
    Were you thinking of Sting in the original film, perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conn Seanery View Post
    Were you thinking of Sting in the original film, perhaps?
    That's got to be it. Dune has always been almost completely outside my field of vision but I liked this one's trailer and the talent involved is top notch. I hope many people also feel the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildling View Post
    None I'm seeing. I don't know how or when that buried itself in my brain.
    Sting
    Edit: And y'all already figured that out. My defense my laptop glitched out, browser restarted, and I didn't think to refresh the page after hitting restore session and so didn't see the newer posts.
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    Holy Hell, Sting was pointless in that movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildling View Post
    None I'm seeing. I don't know how or when that buried itself in my brain.



    Nah it wasn't that bad as far as horror movies go. Hereditary got a D while critics liked it. Ari Aster then directed Midsommar, which for some reason moved the needle up to a C score despite being pretty gross at times and not exactly having a happy ending.

    As far as expectations having anything to do with it, the trailer sold being more of another house apparition story and kept the Cronenberg and stuff elements completely out of it. Personally I was already having my suspicions, starting with the movie name and having watched a number of horror stories. A Stephen King one here, an X-Files or Monsters episode there...
    I agree the marketing of Malignant completely missed the point.

    As for the film itself, I can see what Wan for going for but it didn’t work for me at all.

    It was too slick (the sheer quantity of blood and gore plus the twist I don’t want to spoil suggests that Wan was trying for a “giallo” film feel), some parts had weird acting (that opening sequence…jeez!) and the tone was totally inconsistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    I agree the marketing of Malignant completely missed the point.

    As for the film itself, I can see what Wan for going for but it didn’t work for me at all.

    It was too slick (the sheer quantity of blood and gore plus the twist I don’t want to spoil suggests that Wan was trying for a “giallo” film feel), some parts had weird acting (that opening sequence…jeez!) and the tone was totally inconsistent.
    The marketing department probably gave up at some point, the trailer even featured the spoilers:
    killer vanishing from the sofa cushion
    end of spoilers scene that turned out to be misleading and reminded me of the killer from Lights Out (which had Wan as producer!).

    But Wan confirmed giallo influenced it. For better or worse I thought there was nothing unintentional about this, he intended all of it.

    https://bloody-disgusting.com/interv...t-9-1-11am-ct/

    And hey I loved the opening sequence, I thought it confirmed I wasn't going to get another demonic story this soon after the last Conjuring and all would be more physical.

    At the end of the day Malignant is for me the anti-Candyman. That movie this year got a B Cinemascore and decent box office so far but was getting me really bored until the final act. But I never watched the 90s Candyman in the first place while I felt more aligned with most decisions or influences Wan took here right from the beginning. And as far as horror characters go I didn't really hate or get bored by any main or recurring one here.

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    The marketing department probably gave up at some point, the trailer even featured the spoilers:
    killer vanishing from the sofa cushion
    end of spoilers scene that turned out to be misleading and reminded me of the killer from Lights Out (which had Wan as producer!).
    Very true. It's similar to Crimson Peak which was marketed as some sort of haunted house horror movie when that wasn't the case at all.

    But Wan confirmed giallo influenced it. For better or worse I thought there was nothing unintentional about this, he intended all of it.

    https://bloody-disgusting.com/interv...t-9-1-11am-ct/
    The movie felt very giallo.

    And hey I loved the opening sequence, I thought it confirmed I wasn't going to get another demonic story this soon after the last Conjuring and all would be more physical.
    It was the acting that was strange to me. Maybe Wan wanted it to be a camp but the line reading was so...odd. That's why the tone was just off to me, guys like Raimi know how to maintain that over the top tone and still keep the movie scary.

    At the end of the day Malignant is for me the anti-Candyman. That movie this year got a B Cinemascore and decent box office so far but was getting me really bored until the final act. But I never watched the 90s Candyman in the first place while I felt more aligned with most decisions or influences Wan took here right from the beginning. And as far as horror characters go I didn't really hate or get bored by any main or recurring one here.
    I haven't seen Candyman yet.That being said, the 90s Candyman itself was a slow burn and it wasn't a typical horror movie.

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    I'm reading that Shang-Chi is going to be number 1 again this week with $21 million.

    This movie is holding a lot, lot better than I thought it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    I'm reading that Shang-Chi is going to be number 1 again this week with $21 million.

    This movie is holding a lot, lot better than I thought it would.
    It was to be expected as it's playing exclusively in theaters and has no competition at all for a whole month, meaning it also gets to play in IMAX and other expensive premium formats for much longer than usual.

    Sony moving Venom 2 from its September 24th date was such a stupid move. On that date it would have had no competition bar Shang-Chi's fourth weekend and no other major releases to compete with for full two weeks. On its new October 1st date it'll have only one week until No Time To Die starts and takes away the expensive IMAX and ScreenX screenings.
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