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    And seriously saying box office is only off 15 percent due to pandemic is nuts.

    The 10th highest grossing movie in 2019 made 316 million at the domestic box office. Thats almost 100 million more than the highest domestic performer this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    And seriously saying box office is only off 15 percent due to pandemic is nuts.

    The 10th highest grossing movie in 2019 made 316 million at the domestic box office. Thats almost 100 million more than the highest domestic performer this year.
    Agreed, I mean are we going to believe that Aladin and Jumaji II were going to double James Bond, minus 15%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Agreed, I mean are we going to believe that Aladin and Jumaji II were going to double James Bond, minus 15%?
    Yes apparently we are meant to believe that Shang Chi would make less than Jumani 2. I mean granted 2019 was an exceptional year at the box office but no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago_bastard View Post

    I'm curious what these pandemic blamers will say when No Way Home absolutely crushes it at the domestic box office, which it definitely will.
    They will say it should have made a 1B+. Not saying it won't right now but I don't think it will cross a billion in these conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    They will say it should have made a 1B+. Not saying it won't right now but I don't think it will cross a billion in these conditions.
    Compared to Far From Home? It made $390 Mil Domestically, and $200 Mil in China, where No Way Home isn't playing. So are you expecting Far From Home numbers, or just better than Shang Chi numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Compared to Far From Home? It made $390 Mil Domestically, and $200 Mil in China, where No Way Home isn't playing. So are you expecting Far From Home numbers, or just better than Shang Chi numbers?
    Better than Shang Chi numbers by a wide margin. 280-300M domestic? It's opening during a good long holiday streak. Isn't there still hope for it to open in China? https://variety.com/2021/film/news/s...ticle-comments. 700-800M WW?

    What do you think it will finish with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Better than Shang Chi numbers by a wide margin. 280-300M domestic? It's opening during a good long holiday streak. Isn't there still hope for it to open in China? https://variety.com/2021/film/news/s...ticle-comments. 700-800M WW?

    What do you think it will finish with?
    First, it has to be good. Homecoming and Far From Home were good movies. If this is as good, I could see $250 to $300Mil Domestic.
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    It appears Ghostbusters Afterlife is gonna be a HUGE epic hit for Sony. Its 1st day on Friday seems to be pushing it towards the $30+ million that was expected opening weekend. It made $16.5 million and already people are calling it a nice end and start of something for this era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Compared to Far From Home? It made $390 Mil Domestically, and $200 Mil in China, where No Way Home isn't playing. So are you expecting Far From Home numbers, or just better than Shang Chi numbers?

    No way home isn't getting a China release either? Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Agreed, I mean are we going to believe that Aladin and Jumaji II were going to double James Bond, minus 15%?
    Eh, you know that Jumanji 2 doubled Spectre's domestic box office? As far as I know Spectre wasn't released during a pandemic. (I just realized that maybe you think of the third one from 2019 as Jumanji 2 but that made 320 million and thus also much more than Spectre, so saying it didn't double Bond would be semantics).

    Spectre made 200 million, Quantum of Solace 168 million, Casino Royale 167 million. Skyfall was an exception as it had many variables that led to an overperformance at the box office (raving reviews, fantastic word of mouth, 50 year anniversary of the franchise, Adele's very popular song).

    No Time To Die will finish at 160 million, that is in line with what I said, as the Bond franchise skews to an older demographic than Marvel movies that is more hesitant to go to movie theaters at the moment.

    One can't look at the top ten of other years and randomly pick movies for comparison. This year's movie slot was never going to make the same numbers as 2019. No Way Home is the only movie that was expected to be a huge blockbuster. The fact that Shang-Chi will be the second highest grosser of the year tells you everything about this year's slate of movies.

    Here are some fitting comparisons:

    Shang-Chi: 224 million
    Ant-Man and the Wasp: 216 million

    Venom 2: 207 million by Sunday, still counting
    Venom: 213 million

    A Quiet Place 2: 160 million
    A Quiet Place: 188 million

    Godzilla vs Kong: 100 million
    Godzilla: King of the Monsters: 110 million

    Do you believe any of the theater exclusive movies released this year would have hit 300 million domestic in pre-pandemic times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    Yes apparently we are meant to believe that Shang Chi would make less than Jumani 2. I mean granted 2019 was an exceptional year at the box office but no way.
    Fun fact: Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Iron Man 3 are the only MCU solo movies that made more domestic than Jumanji 2.

    So could you elaborate why it would be outlandish to expect Shang-Chi to make less than the Jumanji movies?
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    As for this weekend's box office, I find it quite funny that the Ghostbusters revival is actually opening less than the much maligned 2016 version.

    The big difference though is that this 2021 version cost $75m compared to the previous one that cost $144m.

    Male or female, outside of the original Ghostbusters cast there doesn't seem to be that much interest in GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    As for this weekend's box office, I find it quite funny that the Ghostbusters revival is actually opening less than the much maligned 2016 version.

    The big difference though is that this 2021 version cost $75m compared to the previous one that cost $144m.

    Male or female, outside of the original Ghostbusters cast there doesn't seem to be that much interest in GB.
    I hope it does well. I honestly never really saw that Ghostbusters was some long term franchise. But apparently the studios think it is. It does seem at least on these boards the property has a following.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    I hope it does well. I honestly never really saw that Ghostbusters was some long term franchise. But apparently the studios think it is. It does seem at least on these boards the property has a following.
    Yeah, I hope it does well. I don't like seeing movies fail, ever.

    But this one is pretty much guaranteed to at least cover its production budget given it's rather "modest" cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    They will say it should have made a 1B+. Not saying it won't right now but I don't think it will cross a billion in these conditions.
    Depends on the pending China release. If it opens in China directly with or shortly after its US release chances are good it can cross 1 billion.
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