The Box Office

[Gaastra]

Yup they changed the aud rule. You have to have seen the film.

IMDB on the other hand--

Other news--

Bp2 has passed Jurassic world D domestic box office.



Black adam officially counts as a loss for the studio.

Japan release was the worst dcu opening ever! So, dreams japan will help the film crushed.

One good news is it is doing well vod.

https://thedirect.com/article/black-...d-dceu-opening

[mace11]

Yes that 2018 one is outdated.
I was looking for something dealing with Verified rt scores and the first link is the one i want to talk about.

Update on a talk from the last dceu thread.
Here some talk about RT audience score vs cinemascore and other websites.

Original AnalysisIt’s time to ignore the Rotten Tomatoes Verified Audience Score (self.boxoffice)



https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/c...toes_verified/

What do think of the view that verified rt scores could still be manipulated unlike cinemascores?
You know buy a ticket and still not see a movie but cinemascore you can't do that.

If the email address of your Rotten Tomatoes account matches the email address you used to buy your ticket, we will mark your review as “Verified”.

dragonculture A24 quote-

This can be used and manipulated and this is from Rotten Tomatoes site. Easy to make an account, easy to buy a ticket, connect it and leave either a glowing or bad review. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Edited
Note-
for tv there is still no rt Verified audience score,so that would be not legitimate like the critic scores even if someone views are closer to the rt audience scores at times etc..

[HollowSage]

dragonculture A24 quote-
This can be used and manipulated and this is from Rotten Tomatoes site. Easy to make an account, easy to buy a ticket, connect it and leave either a glowing or bad review. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wow. Smh. Imagine how lame/sad you have to be to do this without even watching the movie.

[mace11]

Edited above.

[Username taken]

Yup they changed the aud rule. You have to have seen the film.

IMDB on the other hand--

Other news--

Bp2 has passed Jurassic world D domestic box office.



Black adam officially counts as a loss for the studio.

Japan release was the worst dcu opening ever! So, dreams japan will help the film crushed.

One good news is it is doing well vod.

https://thedirect.com/article/black-...d-dceu-opening

Wow, I didn't think BA would actually lose money.

I thought it was just a disappointment.

[thwhtGuardian]

Yup they changed the aud rule. You have to have seen the film.

IMDB on the other hand--

Other news--

Bp2 has passed Jurassic world D domestic box office.



Black adam officially counts as a loss for the studio.

Japan release was the worst dcu opening ever! So, dreams japan will help the film crushed.

One good news is it is doing well vod.

https://thedirect.com/article/black-...d-dceu-opening

Except in the article you quoted it says this:

[QUOTE]Black Adam had an estimated production budget of around $200 million. Considering its nearly $400 million global earnings, even when factoring in marketing costs (typically half of the production cost), the Rock's first DC film is likely profitable for the studio./QUOTE]

[chicago_bastard]

Yes that 2018 one is outdated.
I was looking for something dealing with Verified rt scores and the first link is the one i want to talk about.

What do think of the view that verified rt scores could still be manipulated unlike cinemascores?
You know buy a ticket and still not see a movie but cinemascore you can't do that.

The reddit thread you linked was deleted by the user who posted it so I guess they realized they wrote nonsense, so maybe you should stop spreading it here.

The theory that online trolls would spend money for a movie ticket just so they could give the movie a bad rating on an online platform is such a stretch that I have no words for it.

Why would they spend money for review-bombing a movie on RT when they can just review-bomb other audience scores like imdb for free? Furthermore if one hates a movie and wants it to fail like these trolls obviously do why would they contribute to its success by buying a ticket for it?

The verified RT score is mostly in line with the CinemaScore so there are no clues for that conspiracy theory of online trolls buying tickets to manipulate scores. Movies that get the highest CinemaScore of A+ like Spider-Man: No Way Home, Shang-Chi, Top Gun: Maverick or The Woman King all have very high verified audience scores on RT of at least 98%.

The Woman King has a comparably low imdb score of 6.7 though which is a hint that racist trolls are using imdb to review-bomb that movie but were not so dumb to purchase a ticket for it just so they could manipulate the RT score.

[chicago_bastard]

Except in the article you quoted it says this:

Black Adam had an estimated production budget of around $200 million. Considering its nearly $400 million global earnings, even when factoring in marketing costs (typically half of the production cost), the Rock's first DC film is likely profitable for the studio.

That line doesn't make sense though as the writer obviously thinks that all the money goes to the studio when in fact it only gets roughly 50% of the box office. That they even factor in marketing cost of 100 million that puts the overall budget to 300 million and still believe it's profitable with a box office of 380 million is testament to their misconception.

[mace11]

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings.
CinemaScore A.

[Gaastra]

Black Adam $200m is just production not marketing. Film needs $500m plus to make a profit. $200m isn't even half there so that is wrong.

[Gaastra]

The commando remake with santa filling in for arnold made $11.8m.

“Violent Night” is receiving some holiday cheer with a second place opening on domestic charts, but Santa and his reindeer won’t be able to sleigh the reigning box office leader “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.”

Universal’s action film, which stars David Harbour as a cranky Kris Kringle that takes on a team of mercenaries, is debuting around the middle of its projections, projecting an $11.8 million haul from 3,682 locations. That’s a decent result for the 87North production, which carries a frugal $20 million production budget.

Directed by Tommy Wirkola, “Violent Night” landed so-so with critics, but earned a more positive “B+” grade through research firm Cinema Score, indicating some solid approval from ticketbuyers. Variety‘s Owen Gleiberman wrote that the film “throws every genre it can into the compactor, but that may prove to be a winning holiday buffet.” With a foundation to build from, “Violent Night” could find itself in a solid position moving forward, potentially drawing seasonally tickled viewers looking to express some holiday spirit through the month.

The rest--

“Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” is dominating the box office once again. The superhero sequel added $4.4 million on Friday, expanding its already hefty domestic total to $380 million. A finish above $400 million seems more than likely, which would make “Wakanda Forever” only the third release this year to surpass that total in North America.

The “Black Panther” follow-up will then look to overtake fellow Marvel entry “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,” which topped out in the summer with $411 million and currently stands as the second-highest grossing domestic release of the year. Beyond that, a finish matching the first “Black Panther” ($700 million) is out of the cards.

Former box office champion “Top Gun: Maverick” is also making an appearance back in theaters this weekend, as Paramount is re-releasing the Tom Cruise sequel from through Dec. 15. The film, which is now available to watch at home, isn’t making much of a splash, looking to add $600,000 this weekend.

Disney’s “Strange World” is collapsing in its second outing. The animated adventure earned $1.08 million on Friday, roughly 79% down from its daily total a week ago. That’s already after the film mounted a disappointing $18.6 million five-day opening over the Thanksgiving holiday — a terrible start for a release carrying a $180 million production budget. With a domestic total that currently stands at $21 million, “Strange World” stands to lose as much as $100 million for Disney when all is said and done.

Searchlight’s “The Menu” is putting up a strong hold, projecting a drop of just 36% in its third weekend. The film earned $1.04 million on Friday, pushing its domestic total to $22.2 million. The culinary horror-comedy has been one of the few speciality releases to find a theatrical audience in recent months, though its genre slant likely

Sony’s aviation action film “Devotion” should slot in at fifth, projecting a $2.8 million haul for the weekend. The domestic cume should reach $13.8 million through Sunday — far off from recouping the film’s $90 million production budget.

https://variety.com/2022/film/box-of...nd-1235448567/

[regnak]

Black Adam $200m is just production not marketing. Film needs $500m plus to make a profit. $200m isn't even half there so that is wrong.

It has made $400 million

[Gaastra]

So, $100 plus million to go to make a profit than!

[inisideguy]

For many reasons the box office has not bounced back to 2019. Its slowly moving in a positive direction but its got a long way to go. 2019 had 6 movies go over 400 million domestic. 2022 might have 4 if avatar 2 does. Which I dont know if it will. Although in fairness 2019 was like peak box office.

[useridgoeshere]

From what I’ve seen, Box Office Mojo only updates international once a week. They just did, but BP2 only went up $31-million. If that’s all it got this week, it definitely won’t catch MOM worldwide, ending somewhere in the 800’s.

BA has passed Eternals domestically. Doesn’t look like it’ll reach Ant-Man levels.