The Box Office

[Jim Kelly]

Finally there is box office to talk about in the Box office thread

You can definitely see the difference in reporting, between the negative slant coming from FORBES

‘New Mutants’ Tops Box Office With Poor $3M Friday

and the positive spin coming from THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

Box Office: 'New Mutants' Heading for $8M-Plus Debut

for the same movie's box office.

[Starter Set]

Not bad, i haven't seen it yet but i plan to.

[Killerbee911]

Tenet has made 53 million worldwide, and that doesn't include China which it is open up on Sept 4 and the US.

[GozertheGozarian]

Tenet has made 53 million worldwide, and that doesn't include China which it is open up on Sept 4 and the US.

With a reported 205M production budget, it's going to take a massive opening weekend to turn any kind of profit.

[Killerbee911]

Tenet has crossed the 100 million internationally

New Mutants made about 800k Friday now sits at 9 million

[Jim Kelly]

Making any kind of money in 2020 should be declared a win. Yes some movies might not make back their budget, but making back some of their money is better than making back none of their money. Unless it's a THE PRODUCERS kind of scenario, where the producers were hoping to fail and now are stuck paying back their investors.

[Gaastra]

How did mulan do overseas?

https://deadline.com/2020/09/tenet-o...ce-1234571662/

Disney hasn’t reported Mulan Disney+ revenue figures, and I imagine they won’t until an earnings call, together with the pic’s overseas box office. This weekend, the Niki Caro-directed movie opened to $5.9M from Croatia, Czech Rep, Middle East, Slovakia, Turkey, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, and Thailand.


Mulan opened at #1 in UAE and #2 in Saudi Arabia, posting an estimated $800K in each market. UAE’s opening weekend was +6% ahead of Cinderella and +31% ahead of Tenet (F/S/S). Saudi Arabia’s opening, meanwhile, was +153% ahead of Aladdin, +5% ahead of Maleficent: Mistress of Evil and just -18% below Tenet (F/S/S). Both markets have capacity restrictions in the 30%-50% range. Mulan opened at #1 in Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand, posting the biggest opening weekend to date in 2020 in both Singapore and Thailand. The movie also opened at #2 in Taiwan. All four markets currently have over 90% of theaters open, but the overall market was down vs this time last year in Malaysia (-75%), Singapore (-35%) and Thailand (-23%), while +41% up in Taiwan. Capacity restrictions exist in each of the four markets except for Taiwan.


Rival industry sources with knowledge of PVOD are figuring that Disney may not have earned great presales on Disney+ for Mulan, where the pic was available for $29.99. The studio quickly announced it would be free in early December on the service, and all eyes are watching to see how quickly the film floats to Amazon and GooglePlay services before that free-date. With Disneyland still not open, and other parks still not at their full capacity, Disney needs to make money any way they can, and CEO Bob Chapek told investors Mulan wasn’t creating some new window.

[Killerbee911]

Quick numbers

(World wide)

Tenet 146 million 146,200,000

Unhinged 23,676,208

New Mutants 19,952,627

Bill and Ted 1,555,678

[Jim Kelly]

Do you think the relatively low box office for TENET will cause Warner Bros. to push the release of their other movies?

[matthew]

Just get over the theater exclusivity already, it's not going to work. Sure, you can hold off all your movies until covid is over, good luck with that. Or, release them online. Experiment. Not everything will work, but you'll figure stuff out. Now's the time to do that.

[luprki]

Do you think the relatively low box office for TENET will cause Warner Bros. to push the release of their other movies?

Will they be willing to take another bad hit with Wonder Woman?

[Cyke]

With a reported 205M production budget, it's going to take a massive opening weekend to turn any kind of profit.

Eh, honestly I expect Tenet and New Mutants to really hit their stride once they reach VOD. But it'd be nice to know how much they make providers and how to report it.

Bill and Ted 1,555,678

Same with Bill and Ted. It made $1.5 million this past weekend at the box office, and yet it was the #1 movie on iTunes at the same time. If Apple could report what the #1 spot actually makes, that would be a good way to really measure VOD vs. theaters during the pandemic.

[Aahz]

Just get over the theater exclusivity already, it's not going to work. Sure, you can hold off all your movies until covid is over, good luck with that. Or, release them online. Experiment. Not everything will work, but you'll figure stuff out. Now's the time to do that.

Problem is that the big Blockbusters will have a hard time making their money back online.
We will have to see if enough people are willing to pay the 30 bucks for Mulan, otherwise the studios will not really have an other option than pushing big movies back.

[basbash99]

Problem is that the big Blockbusters will have a hard time making their money back online.
We will have to see if enough people are willing to pay the 30 bucks for Mulan, otherwise the studios will not really have an other option than pushing big movies back.

Exactly. Studios can definitely make lower-budget movies that are justifiable based on streaming subscriptions or VOD. But its very hard to see how they can make 800 milion bucks or whatever off of a blockbuster without packing movie theaters opening weekend.

[ComicJunkie21]

Problem is that the big Blockbusters will have a hard time making their money back online.
We will have to see if enough people are willing to pay the 30 bucks for Mulan, otherwise the studios will not really have an other option than pushing big movies back.

This.

I think people have to truly look at it logically and separate their own personal wants. Some people may want all movies to go online and say it's the future but the reality is there are major cost and revenue disadvantages to it.

I think some lower to mid budget films can make the case for online cinematic releases but the big budget movies can't. The money simply isn't there for them to recoup. What I personally see happening is the trend that the MCU already started. We may see 1-2 big blockbuster films a quarter (between 4-8 big films a year) and all other films go online. We were already seeing that non-superhero and Disney films weren't making a huge splash at the box office anymore.