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    To save the box office they need to stop putting movies on streaming services, and they need to keep the theater-to-DVD window at six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchfan View Post
    To save the box office they need to stop putting movies on streaming services, and they need to keep the theater-to-DVD window at six months.
    I don't think they really need to worry too much about those, we just need to get to a place where more people feel safe enough to go to the movies and sales will get back to where they once were.

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    Update.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-down-theaters

    "Fortunately movies this weekend drove solid overall numbers with Raya and the Last Dragon, Chaos Walking and Boogie, along with holdovers, bringing in a collectively impressive box office total of over $25 million," he continues. "This is arguably the first 'normal' weekend since the start of the pandemic, benefiting from a combination of an appealing big screen lineup that drove a strong frame despite only 45 percent of theaters currently open in North America."

    also--

    https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/ra...ce-1234621767/

    The box office is heading in the right direction. This may have been the best weekend at theaters in almost a year. And initial signs are that even with reduced capacities, reopened New York City theaters responded encouragingly.

    With both “Raya and the Last Dragon” (Disney) and “Tom & Jerry” (Warner Bros.) grossed over $6 million (a first since March 13 last year, just before theaters closed), the top 10 grossed over $23 million, with the total take over $24 million. That is the same as December 25-27 (normally a massive weekend). This was also the best year-to-year performance since March, with business down “only” 76 percent compared to most weeks closer to 90 percent.

    Fact is: this is a low bar to exceed. Why? With the second week of Warners’ animation franchise reboot, and especially with the release of the first Disney animated film in theaters in over a year, along with the New York openings, a better performance seemed possible.

    Most significant is the anemic showing of “Raya.” The opening was hurt by third-largest exhibitor Cinemark and a handful of other players not showing it based on film rental terms. In most of the country, the film was still available, and where it wasn’t, it was an inconvenience for potential ticket buyers. That means that a 20 percent loss gross is likely, with otherwise a take of around $11 million. But that still would have been more than 20 percent less than “Tom & Jerry” last weekend.

    Credit Warner Bros., which like Universal is aggressive with its theater/home platform strategy, with a smart move. When “Raya” finally settled on March 5 as its opening date, Warners, which had earlier moved up “Tom & Jerry” to this weekend from April, jumped into the previous week.

    Coming out after “Tom and Jerry,” as well as the loss of some important theaters, are the topline reasons for the “Raya” shortfall. But perhaps more is in play. Though live-action/animated hybrid “Tom & Jerry” should have been secondary to a fresh title from the studio who regards animation as its birthright, the reality is that as a brand it clicked immediately with family audiences. “Raya” is an unknown, a “serious,” not immediately relatable fantasy tale.

    Then there’s the question of home availability. In this early era of day-and-date play, it’s hard to be certain. “Tom & Jerry” in theaters competed with HBO Max with no extra charge for subscribers. For the most part, signing up for a month on the platform would cost less than two or three admissions in theaters. But in order to see “Raya” viewers would have to not only subscribe to Disney+, but cough up an additional $29.99.

    Theaters might seem a more attractive alternative. But consumers are voting with their purchases. Less than three months ago Disney+ subscribers were able to see “Soul” for no extra charge when no theaters were available. “Mulan,” which had a similar initial PVOD cost, before too long was available at no premium (“Raya” reportedly has a June 4 date for the same on the platform). So perhaps their subscribers are resisting paying at theaters.
    In others words disneys biggest enemy for raya was--disney!

    As for top 5 it's

    1. Raya
    2. Tom and jerry
    3. Choas walking
    4. boogie
    5. Croods 2

    Coming to america 2s limited release was not on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post

    In others words disneys biggest enemy for raya was--disney!

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    Describing it as "an enemy" isn't correct. Plus taken from the article you posted

    Without access to data on the PVOD take, we have little basis to project its ultimate financial fate
    You can determine if it is a success or failure out the vod numbers and article is written from a theater perspective

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    Update- while not doing as well as the had hoped even with disney screwups raya still made $26.2m ww. Boogie made $1.2m, Minari pulls $2.2M overseas. Chaos walking pulls $2.6M. Tom & jerry $57.34m ww.

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    They are predicting tom and jerry and raya to stay on top.

    https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend...id-march-fort/

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    Avatar gets into Chinese theaters again and will claim highest box office in no time, beating Endgame.

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    It's done. Dances with ferngully has beat endgame.

    https://deadline.com/2021/03/avatar-...ey-1234713788/

    Also for those of you in LA your movies are opening back up again monday.

    https://deadline.com/2021/03/los-ang...ay-1234713432/

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    I wonder if we will ever see a "most viewed" category. The whole movie landscape has changed now. I doubt Endgame 2ill be re-released, since it is a selling point for Disney+.
    But I could see Avatar double features here next year because of the 3D selling point.
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    Raya expected to make $5.7m this weekend. Funny is it's not disney plus release but movie chains refusing to show it that is hurting the film!

    While the B.O. is still in repair, Disney’s second weekend of Raya and the Last Dragon, which is also available on Disney+ for an extra $30 to subscribers, is leading this weekend with $1.5M yesterday and an estimated $5.7M, -33% at 2,163 locations (+118) for a 10-day gross of $16M. Friday was off 42%.

    While we were very nervous about this new day and date theatrical Disney+ model, those with knowledge of Disney’s distribution maneuvers believe that it was merely an experiment, not apt to shake-up the entire future of theatrical releasing, and that day and date streaming releases aren’t part of their long term plans for the Burbank, CA lot to make bank on their slate. Word is that Disney heard the message loud and clear from those exhibitors like Cinemark, Harkins, and others who refused to play Raya, and clearly the movie is suffering from those chains absence in its box office equation. The biggest ouch here for Raya? Not having Canada’s Cineplex.
    Tom and jerry expected to do well also.

    Warner Bros.’ Tom & Jerry is estimated to have grossed $1M in its third Friday, -37%, for a 3-day of $4M, -39% at 2,434 theaters (-129), and a running total of $26.9M. The pic is currently on WarnerMedia’s subscriber streaming service HBO Max for another 15 days before theaters have it exclusive in the pic’s second month run.
    https://deadline.com/2021/03/raya-an...ng-1234713807/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    It's done. Dances with ferngully has beat endgame.

    https://deadline.com/2021/03/avatar-...ey-1234713788/

    Also for those of you in LA your movies are opening back up again monday.

    https://deadline.com/2021/03/los-ang...ay-1234713432/
    So with movie theaters probably not coming back to the way they were at least not for awhile and everything going to streaming avatar may be the top movie forever?

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    My idea of the successful movie was always its first run, and no re entrys.

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    Let's face it, just the dollar amount, without taking into account inflation. And the global market, which was a small fraction what it is today, makes Box Office comparisons historically meaningless.
    We even need to address population growth to be fair.
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    Raya makes $55 million. Tom and jerry $4.1 million.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...d-50m-globally

    Disney's family film Raya and the Last Dragon stayed atop the domestic box office chart in its second weekend with $55 million.

    The good news: the computer-animated film fell only 35 percent, while roughly half of indoor theaters in North America are now open. The bad news: capacity is capped at 25 percent at New York City theaters, which began reopening a week ago, while Los Angeles County cinemas won't be back online until this week.

    Capacity in L.A. county will also be capped at 25 percent, or 100 people per auditorium (that's somewhat better than New York, where it is 50 people). Giant AMC Theatres is opening numerous L.A. sites, including AMC Century City on Monday.

    Overseas, Raya grossed another $11.5 million for a subdued global total of $52.6 million. A number of major circuits both abroad and internationally refused to play the title after asking for more lucrative terms since Raya is also available on Disney+ for a premium price of $30.

    The biggest headline of the weekend was Avatar, which on Saturday once again became the top-grossing pic of all time at the global box office after getting re-released in China. It reclaimed the crown from Avengers: Endgame on Saturday when jumping the $2.8 billion mark, compared to $2.797 for Endgame.

    Avatar's weekend haul in China was $21 million, according to Disney/20th Century. A hefty $6.2 million came from Imax screens.

    Back in North America, Warner Bros.' family film Tom & Jerry wasn't far behind Raya, grossing $4.1 million for a domestic total of $28.2 million and $66.9 million globally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Let's face it, just the dollar amount, without taking into account inflation. And the global market, which was a small fraction what it is today, makes Box Office comparisons historically meaningless.
    We even need to address population growth to be fair.
    Only viewers in numbers are important to know which movie is the most successful. If you want to put the financials aside. Just to see how many people went into this or that movie, that would be most interesting.

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