"Grandmaster" Thing vs Spinach Popeye

[Shai-Hulud]

616 Ben Grimm, the Thing, gets enhanced and goes up against Popeye the Sailor.

* Ben Grimm: Gets his orange rocky form, plus the feats of Pre-Crisis Karate Kid, Iron Fist, Karnak, Remo Williams, Cassandra Cain, Mantis (martial feats only), the Mandarin (martial feats only), Wonder Woman (current version, physical feats and bracelets), Midnighter, Champion of the Universe, and a 20th-level monk from 3.5 D&D.

* Popeye: Starts off spinach-enhanced.

Standard arena match.

[Beadle]

Wait... so the starting point is Ben Grimm but then we paste on two solid Class 100s with better durability (Wonder Woman and Champion of the Universe)? So what’s the point in starting with Ben?

[Shai-Hulud]

Wait... so the starting point is Ben Grimm but then we paste on two solid Class 100s with better durability (Wonder Woman and Champion of the Universe)? So what’s the point in starting with Ben?

None really, it could have just been a composite. Ben is known for endurance and taking punishment above and beyond the call of duty, as when he fought Champion in Champ's first appearance.

Comment on anything interesting about the match.

Unless you think there's nothing interesting, just one punch and orange rocks flying across the galaxy....

With all these martial artists, Ben ought to be able to make some kind of showing.

[Beadle]

To be honest, this composite is pretty great (although it could probably be done without Ben, Remo, Danny, Cass, Mantis and Mandarin without affecting its overall effectiveness).

BUT

Spinached-up Popeye is a ludicrous level toon-forcer and reality warper.

[MichaelC]

Yeah, Popeye is basically Q skinned as a brick without actually having any of a brick's limitations.

[The Dog]

Brought this up last time Popeye's spinach power was brought up, but it needs to be repeated: Popeye managed to reverse being forcibly aged to over 100 years old by eating spinach. He also managed to reverse being disintegrated by eating spinach... somehow. Possibly by keeping enough of his atoms together to eat some spinach and reconstitute himself.

[Powerboy]

To be honest, this composite is pretty great (although it could probably be done without Ben, Remo, Danny, Cass, Mantis and Mandarin without affecting its overall effectiveness).

BUT

Spinached-up Popeye is a ludicrous level toon-forcer and reality warper.

Yes, you need something more like someone who could physically punch someone to the Moon combined with Classic Dr. Strange or Classic Doctor Fate. I'm thinking of someone like Dr. Ralph Strangefate, an amalgam of Ralph Kramden, Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate.

Or, some people might argue that Ralph's feats are unsubstantiated claims. So maybe Pre-Crisis Superman combined with the Spectre.

[Sharpandpointies]

616 Ben Grimm, the Thing, gets enhanced and goes up against Popeye the Sailor.

* Ben Grimm: Gets his orange rocky form, plus the feats of Pre-Crisis Karate Kid, Iron Fist, Karnak, Remo Williams, Cassandra Cain, Mantis (martial feats only), the Mandarin (martial feats only), Wonder Woman (current version, physical feats and bracelets), Midnighter, Champion of the Universe, and a 20th-level monk from 3.5 D&D.

* Popeye: Starts off spinach-enhanced.

Standard arena match.

Iron Fist, Karnak, Cass, and the Manadarin look at Karate Kid and wonder why they're part of the martial arts ability composite.

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It's not often this gets said, but we can throw Remo and Mantis into that group as well.