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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Diana has more powers now than she had originally.
    How so? What has she gained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanlos View Post
    How so? What has she gained?
    Flight, greater strength, greater speed, communication with animals, immunity to fire, enhanced senses.

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    As far as I know, Diana has super strength, super speed, and sometimes can fly (in more recent decades). She's a great fighter and has tools the Gods gave her.

    She also has the super spin.. is that canon in the comics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer01 View Post
    As far as I know, Diana has super strength, super speed, and sometimes can fly (in more recent decades). She's a great fighter and has tools the Gods gave her.

    She also has the super spin.. is that canon in the comics?
    Super-Spin, no. But she used to twirl her lasso around herself. Her clothing was attuned to the viratory effects.

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    Marston's Diana had speed, strength, beauty, and wisdom listed in the introductory paragraph. She also demonstrated the mental radio/telepathy, enhanced senses, innovating gadgets, and language skills. The lasso in the beginning was the lasso of control.

    Pérez's Diana had speed, strength, beauty, and wisdom. She also received unity with beasts, loving heart, sisterhood with fire, and flight there. I'm not sure if it was Pérez who introduced the lasso of truth, or if that came earlier.

    Some runs of the comics have used the spin, or a lasso transformation.
    «Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer01 View Post
    As far as I know, Diana has super strength, super speed, and sometimes can fly (in more recent decades). She's a great fighter and has tools the Gods gave her.

    She also has the super spin.. is that canon in the comics?
    Yes, but only in the Jimenez and Heinberg runs, that's what I mean about stuff going unused. They add things like lightning bracelets (Simone), bracelets housing weapons and god mode (Azzarello) and then the next writer ignores it and it's never mentioned again.

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    I understand the spin is hokey to some people partly because it came from the tv show. Though it's not as good, why she can't have the lasso transformation that was canon for decades? It's like neither are welcome and she has to change clothes like a normal person. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    I understand the spin is hokey to some people partly because it came from the tv show. Though it's not a good, why she can't have the lasso transformation that was canon for decades? It's like neither are welcome and she has to change clothes like a normal person. Why?
    I agree. For a character so steeped in the fantastic, this embrace of the mundane baffles me.
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    I understand the spin is hokey to some people partly because it came from the tv show. Though it's not as good, why she can't have the lasso transformation that was canon for decades? It's like neither are welcome and she has to change clothes like a normal person. Why?
    Some people don't like it and think it has to be there just because the t.v. show used it. It's that simple. No one's pushing for Superman to have the "repair the wall" vision, memory-erasing kiss and S symbol throw the Reeves movies used. Why does Diana have to use a spin from a decades old t.v. show that modern audiences probably haven't even watched?

    Also, if writers remembered that Diana has super speed, she wouldn't be changing clothes like a normal person.

    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    I agree. For a character so steeped in the fantastic, this embrace of the mundane baffles me.
    Embracing the mundane has nothing to do with it. Some people just don't like it for other reasons. I'm sure you have your own fantasy tropes you don't like.

    I mean, it's telling when people seem to care more about Diana using a spin from a decades old show over the powers she's had in the comics originally, not to mention supporting cast, villains and locations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Some people don't like it and think it has to be there just because the t.v. show used it. It's that simple. No one's pushing for Superman to have the "repair the wall" vision, memory-erasing kiss and S symbol throw the Reeves movies used. Why does Diana have to use a spin from a decades old t.v. show that modern audiences probably haven't even watched?

    Also, if writers remembered that Diana has super speed, she wouldn't be changing clothes like a normal person.



    Embracing the mundane has nothing to do with it. Some people just don't like it for other reasons. I'm sure you have your own fantasy tropes you don't like.

    I mean, it's telling when people seem to care more about Diana using a spin from a decades old show over the powers she's had in the comics originally, not to mention supporting cast, villains and locations.
    Superman did those things once but never again. Wonder Woman used the spin at least twice in every episode of her show. It's iconic, fantastic and fun. That's reason enough. Also it was used on the JL cartoon and in her own comic so your decades old complaint doesn't hold water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    Superman did those things once but never again. Wonder Woman used the spin at least twice in every episode of her show. It's iconic, fantastic and fun. That's reason enough. Also it was used on the JL cartoon and in her own comic so your decades old complaint doesn't hold water.
    The "iconic" argument gets used for a lot of stuff. Doesn't make it actually good.

    And the show literally being decades old does mean my point holds water.

    Either way, no one has to like something for being iconic. That's a shallow reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The "iconic" argument gets used for a lot of stuff. Doesn't make it actually good.

    And the show literally being decades old does mean my point holds water.

    Either way, no one has to like something for being iconic. That's a shallow reason.
    That's fine, you can dislike as many things as you want for whatever reasons. That doesn't mean it changes anyone else's mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    That's fine, you can dislike as many things as you want for whatever reasons. That doesn't mean it changes anyone else's mind.
    Fair enough. I apologise for the hostility.

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    In certain comics she does have super hearing and eyesights. Should she have that? I mean I mean a sense one of the goddess is a hunter. You need to have both

    I’m curious how fast should she be? Dc doesn’t always be consistent. I mean I don’t mean super speed. I do think Cheetah should be one of the fastest even more so than Superman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Embracing the mundane has nothing to do with it. Some people just don't like it for other reasons. I'm sure you have your own fantasy tropes you don't like.

    I mean, it's telling when people seem to care more about Diana using a spin from a decades old show over the powers she's had in the comics originally, not to mention supporting cast, villains and locations.
    It's not the only thing I care about WW, but since the topic was brought up, I thought I'd chime in. And I actually care about all those things, but my preferences have almost always run polar opposite of yours.

    Sorry (not sorry) that my preferences seem to offend you so much.
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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