X-Men + Fantastic Four #2 Preview

[JB]

Wow...someone went there. 'Sorry..your kid test positive for the X-Gene. We have informed Krakoa and they are sending a retrieval team to take your child from you. Don't resist or you will be put in jail or killed.'

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[spirit2011]

They would have if not for Bishop's fast action with that penis gun (weird panel)

Bishop was able to defend himself without killing or maiming them

[JB]

Bishop was able to defend himself without killing or maiming them

I dunno, I hear that guy has a permanent heart murmur now and is on Krakoan medication.

[Chris0013]

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I did ask that question several months ago when this whole Krakoa thing started.

[JB]

I did ask that question several months ago when this whole Krakoa thing started.

Nah, we've seen mutants make the decision to live off the island and the Krakoans are fine with it. Now, Nanny in the upcoming Hellions may feel differently but we'll have to see.

[spirit2011]

I dunno, I hear that guy has a permanent heart murmur now and is on Krakoan medication.

Really? where was this information? he probably gonna get cured and was the only thing Bishop had and it wasn't lethal

[Chris0013]

Nah, we've seen mutants make the decision to live off the island and the Krakoans are fine with it. Now, Nanny in the upcoming Hellions may feel differently but we'll have to see.

We know there are mutants (Mercury's or Elixer's parents come to mind {yes..I know Elixer's parent gave up their parental rights...just using them as as example of parents who don't want their mutant kid}) who would happily ship their mutant child off to the island. It is just where to the X-men draw the line? One of the central arguments ...as I see it...in this thread is was the X-Men's visit just to extend the invitation to Franklin to visit at his convenience or was it to manipulate him into coming to the island for less than altruistic purposes.

And I am kind or worried about an exchange between Kate and Charles in the 1st issue. Kate says that her interaction with Franklin was a long time ago and she was not sure he would remember. Charles said "He does." How does Charles know that...did he read Franklin's mind without permission? Did he go into Franklin's mind and pull that up to remind him?? For me...a telepath entering a mind with out consent is an assault. Not different that if Logan tried to use his claws of Scott tried to use his optic blast.

[Triniking1234]

51 pages?

Hope you all slept.

[Vegan Daddy]

Baby Apocalypse took over the mojo-verse and has a kill count in the billions. He's the most effective version of the character ever. For the sake of world peace and the continuation of human existence, I would look away if the X-men decided to eat this baby.

Everyone in the mojo-verse is scum. Baby •|Å|• did nothing wrong.

[JB]

Really? where was this information? he probably gonna get cured and was the only thing Bishop had and it wasn't lethal

LOL! My apologies spirit, I was totally kidding.

We know there are mutants (Mercury's or Elixer's parents come to mind {yes..I know Elixer's parent gave up their parental rights...just using them as as example of parents who don't want their mutant kid}) who would happily ship their mutant child off to the island. It is just where to the X-men draw the line? One of the central arguments ...as I see it...in this thread is was the X-Men's visit just to extend the invitation to Franklin to visit at his convenience or was it to manipulate him into coming to the island for less than altruistic purposes.

And I am kind or worried about an exchange between Kate and Charles in the 1st issue. Kate says that her interaction with Franklin was a long time ago and she was not sure he would remember. Charles said "He does." How does Charles know that...did he read Franklin's mind without permission? Did he go into Franklin's mind and pull that up to remind him?? For me...a telepath entering a mind with out consent is an assault. Not different that if Logan tried to use his claws of Scott tried to use his optic blast.

New Mutants will be conducting outreach for mutants that don't live on Krakoa so we'll probably see this situation come up. But so far we haven't seen it.

I didn't notice that part in #1 so my guess is if they don't address it on page, then it was probably nothing. But maybe they will.

[Kurolegacy]

Just like to make a few comments.
Bobbys violence : I think people are ignoring the nature of his powers. I've many , many times thought that if he went around freezing people into blocks of ice he would in fact cause horrific damage. Loss of fingers , limbs , and probably life.Just this time the consequences are shown. And of course the frostbite would be inevitable.

Cyclops encounter with the ff : I've read that multiple times now. Cyclops is the perfect gentleman here , a true boy scout .he could even pass for English. When Reed says he has a problem handing over Creed (in defiance of international law) Cyclops backs off immediatly.

I sometimes think we are all reading different versions of these comics.

I’d agree that Cyclops was definitely gentlemanly in that conversation back then. The main turn however was when he brought up diplomatic immunity in Creed’s case. He did well in defusing the tension by allowing for Creed to stay with him though whether he had any say in Creed being extracted later we can’t say and thus can’t fault him for. He certainly would make for a good diplomat for Krakoa.

[Chris0013]

I didn't notice that part in #1 so my guess is if they don't address it on page, then it was probably nothing. But maybe they will.

Given Xavier's history with using his powers in a not so altruistic manner from wiping minds of events to protect the school to wiping everyone's memories about the actual 2nd X-Men team from Deadly Genesis I am really not willing to let him off with "it was probably nothing". This guy has a history of being a world class tool and does not get a free pass from me.

[Kurolegacy]

51 pages?

Hope you all slept.

While you slept, the world changed.

[tuck frump]

51 pages?

Hope you all slept.

Im sleeping on this never ending argument.

[JB]

Given Xavier's history with using his powers in a not so altruistic manner from wiping minds of events to protect the school to wiping everyone's memories about the actual 2nd X-Men team from Deadly Genesis I am really not willing to let him off with "it was probably nothing". This guy has a history of being a world class tool and does not get a free pass from me.

And that's where readers differ. Some lean towards thinking everything Charles is doing is evil and others give him the benefit of the doubt. Most characters have done questionable things so I prefer not to hold on to anything specific and just let the story tell itself.