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    Default Retrospective: The Amazing Spider-Man #269-270


    So the random thought came into my head to ask the Spider-Man community about this controversial 1985 storyline, where Spider-Man is forced into battle with Firelord, a former Herald of Galactus. This is a David vs. Goliath battle, and likely inspired by the Spider-Man vs. Juggernaut fight a few years earlier, albeit with a crucial difference.

    The EiC at the time was Jim Shooter, it was written by Tom DeFalco, drawn by Ron Frenz, inked by Bob McLeod, colored by Bob Sharen, lettered by Joe Rosen, and edited by Jim Owsley (now known as Christopher Priest). Just thought I'd list the names of the people that you have to thank, or scorn, for this story depending on your point of view.

    What the story does well especially on is continuity. For one, it actually ties into an X-Men comic where Dazzler was outed as a mutant, and the news playing while Firelord getting pizza causes others to think he's a mutant too and begin their attack (though the whole "FREEZE MUTIE!" before spraying with a hose would be incredibly stupid to do on Pyro, much less Firelord, shows how dumb people are). Also, it ties into an issue of the Fantastic Four, where the Baxter Building is destroyed.

    It was Spidey attacking Firelord as he was trying to get revenge that triggers the fight itself. Spidey stays in the open because he feels responsible for the whole thing, and doesn't want to risk Firelord causing mass destruction in his wake. Thus, a chase begins where Spidey has to run and outfox the Herald. I love a line he says in particular when he knows how screwed he is: "It's time I called in some heavy-hitters like the Fantastic Four or the Avengers! Heck, I'd even settle for the Power Pack about now!"

    He leads Firelord throughout the city, through buildings, the subway system, different streets and alleyways, into the river, just everywhere, as he tries something, anything that can deter such an insanely powerful being. And of course, the Parker Luck comes in, as apparently no hero can show up to help out, leaving him alone with the cosmic flamethrower. Spidey does everything from leading him into an oncoming subway, blowing up an abandoned building on him, and tricking him into exploding a gas station that levels several city blocks (but thankfully all of it was abandoned housing).

    However, none of it works. Just when it seems like Spidey was as good as dead, he does one last thing out of desperation: Attack him head-on. Caught off-guard, taken by surprise, we get this scene:




    Spider-Man, all by himself, just took down a Herald of Galactus in single combat. Without taking a single hit. He didn't even know he won. The Avengers are all thoroughly impressed that Spidey pulled it off, Cap saying "Considering his power, it looks like you did pretty well." Heh, you think? Spidey himself is somewhat surprised he just did it, noting how lucky he was. This story continues over to the Avengers where they bring him back to the Mansion and then go on a mission with him afterwards, but that's elsewhere.

    Some view it as one of Spider-Man's greatest underdog triumphs, others view it was a supreme example of popularity power, and there are those who think it's a little bit of both.

    As for my personal opinion, it's the "bit of both". Yes, objectively speaking, it just doesn't make sense as to why Spider-Man can just punch out an intergalactic demigod who has the Power Cosmic. It makes you wonder why he struggles with characters like Doctor Octopus if he can beat Heralds and it's fully canon as something he did. However, it's just hard for me to get angry at it, because it was written so well, from the pacing, portrayal of struggle and fear, and the feel that his victory, even if it didn't make logical sense, was well-earned. He deserved that win after all the hell he went through. The speech he gave as he was beating Firelord was an excellent display of Spidey's characterization.

    I actually felt angry when Miles Morales beat Blackheart with the Venom Blast. I think Bendis actually was inspired by this story when he wrote that, but in that case it wasn't well-earned, and strangely, it might even be logically possible -- the Venom Blast's power is so ill-defined as a get out of jail free card, who's to say he couldn't beat Blackheart? It was just insulting there, even though it isn't here.

    Anyways, what do you guys think? What's your overall take on this storyline? Discuss.
    Last edited by Hybrid; 02-21-2020 at 05:20 PM.

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