Countdown for Krakoa's downfall

[Veitha]

You are the one who's fooling yourself, pal. Do you honestly believe Apocalypse or Mr Sinister are going to just accept something like Krakoa? Apocalypse's ideology has always been "only the strongest survive", and suddenly a paradise for mutants where they can all live without worries, leaving themselves get weak and comfortable, do you really believe Apocalypse will accept something like that? That's exactly what happened to the Dodo bird, and it ended extinct. You are really dumb if you think he's not up to something.

And when I said all mutants were in Krakoa? I never did. Besides, surely there are tons of mutants who doesn't buy the whole thing about Krakoa, because they know they will end like Genosha, Asteroid M and all the others.

Mutants can't work as society because their tendency to isolate themselves. It's very easy the whole topic about prejuices and stuff against mutants, but how many times mutants have ruined human lifes just because? Many of the better known mutant haters were victims of mutant brutality as kids and grew up looking for revenge; like Graydron Creed and Lydia Nance. Clearly, Mutants can have human childs, and you are telling me is good for mutants to abuse them? And how about all the innocent humans that Magneto, Apocalypse and other mutant criminals killed in the past simply for being in the wrong place? Have they answered for those crimes? And now Mutants pretend to cheat death and avoid judgement while the innocents who died by their hands stay dead? The Ghost Riders would have A LOT to say about that.

What do you think it will happen when a human baby will be born in Krakoa? It's not about "if", but "when". If they treat that baby as trash for not being mutant, it will be the absolute proof that Mutants are nothing but freaks that doesn't even deserve to exist.

Shogo lives on Krakoa and there's no problem about it. Aero was living on Krakoa, probably alongside other depowered mutants who are genetically baseline humans. Mutants are also currently working with human scientists and even sent Domino as a bodyguard to a human woman. If you wanna hate, check your facts first.

Also, I don't think you want to compare human vs mutant death counts.

[hulkling]

Shogo lives on Krakoa and there's no problem about it. Aero was living on Krakoa, probably alongside other depowered mutants who are genetically baseline humans. Mutants are also currently working with human scientists and even sent Domino as a bodyguard to a human woman. If you wanna hate, check your facts first.

Also, I don't think you want to compare human vs mutant death counts.

well right now mutant death count is less each day but the people Archangel and Apocalypse killed is still death so....

[Triniking1234]

Mutants CAN'T work as society. They have already tried that many times in the past and they all blow up in their faces. And now, X-Men are acting like the jerkest imbeciles of all. They are literally pushing their luck to their limits. Having individuals like Apocalypse, Sebastian Shaw and Mr Sinister is the piece that is going to be their doom. They clearly have their own agendas, agendas that will cause BIG problems for all Krakoa. In the end, Krakoa will be burnt to ashes, mutants will suffer another "Genosha" with most of mutants killed, and when the truth about Moira will be revealed, it will be the last drop for ALL of them. Best scenario? Surviving X-Men will kill Xavier in retaliation for manipulating them. And now knowing theirs is a lost war, they will leave not wanting to have anything to do with the X-Men ever again.

My man out here acting like the past attempts were all the mutants' fault and not that of outside forces.

This ain't Venezuela we're talking about.

[Ferro]

You are the one who's fooling yourself, pal. Do you honestly believe Apocalypse or Mr Sinister are going to just accept something like Krakoa? Apocalypse's ideology has always been "only the strongest survive", and suddenly a paradise for mutants where they can all live without worries, leaving themselves get weak and comfortable, do you really believe Apocalypse will accept something like that? That's exactly what happened to the Dodo bird, and it ended extinct. You are really dumb if you think he's not up to something.

And when I said all mutants were in Krakoa? I never did. Besides, surely there are tons of mutants who doesn't buy the whole thing about Krakoa, because they know they will end like Genosha, Asteroid M and all the others.

Mutants can't work as society because their tendency to isolate themselves. It's very easy the whole topic about prejuices and stuff against mutants, but how many times mutants have ruined human lifes just because? Many of the better known mutant haters were victims of mutant brutality as kids and grew up looking for revenge; like Graydron Creed and Lydia Nance. Clearly, Mutants can have human childs, and you are telling me is good for mutants to abuse them? And how about all the innocent humans that Magneto, Apocalypse and other mutant criminals killed in the past simply for being in the wrong place? Have they answered for those crimes? And now Mutants pretend to cheat death and avoid judgement while the innocents who died by their hands stay dead? The Ghost Riders would have A LOT to say about that.

What do you think it will happen when a human baby will be born in Krakoa? It's not about "if", but "when". If they treat that baby as trash for not being mutant, it will be the absolute proof that Mutants are nothing but freaks that doesn't even deserve to exist.

there is just so much wrong in this to waste an entire box of red markers to highlight what and how, its impressive almost
F+ for the effort though

[loke13]

You are the one who's fooling yourself, pal. Do you honestly believe Apocalypse or Mr Sinister are going to just accept something like Krakoa? Apocalypse's ideology has always been "only the strongest survive", and suddenly a paradise for mutants where they can all live without worries, leaving themselves get weak and comfortable, do you really believe Apocalypse will accept something like that? That's exactly what happened to the Dodo bird, and it ended extinct. You are really dumb if you think he's not up to something.

And when I said all mutants were in Krakoa? I never did. Besides, surely there are tons of mutants who doesn't buy the whole thing about Krakoa, because they know they will end like Genosha, Asteroid M and all the others.

Mutants can't work as society because their tendency to isolate themselves. It's very easy the whole topic about prejuices and stuff against mutants, but how many times mutants have ruined human lifes just because? Many of the better known mutant haters were victims of mutant brutality as kids and grew up looking for revenge; like Graydron Creed and Lydia Nance. Clearly, Mutants can have human childs, and you are telling me is good for mutants to abuse them? And how about all the innocent humans that Magneto, Apocalypse and other mutant criminals killed in the past simply for being in the wrong place? Have they answered for those crimes? And now Mutants pretend to cheat death and avoid judgement while the innocents who died by their hands stay dead? The Ghost Riders would have A LOT to say about that.

What do you think it will happen when a human baby will be born in Krakoa? It's not about "if", but "when". If they treat that baby as trash for not being mutant, it will be the absolute proof that Mutants are nothing but freaks that doesn't even deserve to exist.

Wow there is some strong victim blaming vibes going on here to justify your hate of Krakoa. Just say you want the X-Men to be constantly oppressed minorities and leave it at that.

[Nigel909]

You are the one who's fooling yourself, pal. Do you honestly believe Apocalypse or Mr Sinister are going to just accept something like Krakoa? Apocalypse's ideology has always been "only the strongest survive", and suddenly a paradise for mutants where they can all live without worries, leaving themselves get weak and comfortable, do you really believe Apocalypse will accept something like that? That's exactly what happened to the Dodo bird, and it ended extinct. You are really dumb if you think he's not up to something.

And when I said all mutants were in Krakoa? I never did. Besides, surely there are tons of mutants who doesn't buy the whole thing about Krakoa, because they know they will end like Genosha, Asteroid M and all the others.

Mutants can't work as society because their tendency to isolate themselves. It's very easy the whole topic about prejuices and stuff against mutants, but how many times mutants have ruined human lifes just because? Many of the better known mutant haters were victims of mutant brutality as kids and grew up looking for revenge; like Graydron Creed and Lydia Nance. Clearly, Mutants can have human childs, and you are telling me is good for mutants to abuse them? And how about all the innocent humans that Magneto, Apocalypse and other mutant criminals killed in the past simply for being in the wrong place? Have they answered for those crimes? And now Mutants pretend to cheat death and avoid judgement while the innocents who died by their hands stay dead? The Ghost Riders would have A LOT to say about that.

What do you think it will happen when a human baby will be born in Krakoa? It's not about "if", but "when". If they treat that baby as trash for not being mutant, it will be the absolute proof that Mutants are nothing but freaks that doesn't even deserve to exist.

Wow , you learn something knew every day ! So Apocalypse caused the extinction of the Dodo ! What a bastard !

[Nigel909]

Wow there is some strong victim blaming vibes going on here to justify your hate of Krakoa. Just say you want the X-Men to be constantly oppressed minorities and leave it at that.

Sounds more like he wants them extinct and the line discontinued.

[Triniking1234]

You are the one who's fooling yourself, pal. Do you honestly believe Apocalypse or Mr Sinister are going to just accept something like Krakoa? Apocalypse's ideology has always been "only the strongest survive", and suddenly a paradise for mutants where they can all live without worries, leaving themselves get weak and comfortable, do you really believe Apocalypse will accept something like that? That's exactly what happened to the Dodo bird, and it ended extinct. You are really dumb if you think he's not up to something.

And when I said all mutants were in Krakoa? I never did. Besides, surely there are tons of mutants who doesn't buy the whole thing about Krakoa, because they know they will end like Genosha, Asteroid M and all the others.

Mutants can't work as society because their tendency to isolate themselves. It's very easy the whole topic about prejuices and stuff against mutants, but how many times mutants have ruined human lifes just because? Many of the better known mutant haters were victims of mutant brutality as kids and grew up looking for revenge; like Graydron Creed and Lydia Nance.

Clearly, Mutants can have human childs, and you are telling me is good for mutants to abuse them? And how about all the innocent humans that Magneto, Apocalypse and other mutant criminals killed in the past simply for being in the wrong place? Have they answered for those crimes? And now Mutants pretend to cheat death and avoid judgement while the innocents who died by their hands stay dead? The Ghost Riders would have A LOT to say about that.

What do you think it will happen when a human baby will be born in Krakoa? It's not about "if", but "when". If they treat that baby as trash for not being mutant, it will be the absolute proof that Mutants are nothing but freaks that doesn't even deserve to exist.

1) Mr. Sinister and Mystique are back-stabbers as Hickman has shown but Apocalypse has worked with the X-Men against the High Evolutionary, Onslaught and X-Man so if they're on the same side he can be trusted.

2) Hasn't been shown

3) Isolation can work as a society anyway in the MU and in real life. Mutants only isolate themselves to avoid getting killed by the flatscans but the ones that followed Xavier's teachings always tried to integrate.

4) Two examples of humans being abused by mutants compared to the countless mutants in the vice versa scenario? wow.

5) Reach

6) Reach. Also Shogo exists.

[Ferro]

in the end luvs, the same way morrisons gets referenced every two months and times we have revisited genosha/utopia, krakoa is yet another turning point to change the decade but in a much larger scale and dept.
and also money speaks louder and its looking mighty fresh in that department luvs

[Veitha]

well right now mutant death count is less each day but the people Archangel and Apocalypse killed is still death so....

So is Genosha, but that doesn't count because mutant death count is currently less each day (says who? You mean because of Resurrections)?

Mutants have a No Human Killing rule so they're actively trying to protect humans from being killed by mutants, but we can't say the opposite.

[BroHomo]

in the end luvs, the same way morrisons gets referenced every two months and times we have revisited genosha/utopia, krakoa is yet another turning point to change the decade but in a much larger scale and dept.
and also money speaks louder and its looking mighty fresh in that department luvs

lol luvs

[Zelena]

6) Reach. Also Shogo exists.

Right. He exists.
But, people, nowadays at least, tend to be nice towards babies.
Once they grow, they are less cute: no more big eyes in a round face and he starts speaking and judging the people around him.
It's a bit premature to consider relationships between humans and mutants in light of Shogo's existence.

[The tall man]

Right. He exists.
But, people, nowadays at least, tend to be nice towards babies.
Once they grow, they are less cute: no more big eyes in a round face and he starts speaking and judging the people around him.
It's a bit premature to consider relationships between humans and mutants in light of Shogo's existence.

Not reading a lot of Excalibur but didn't they turn Shogo into a dragon and ship his ass off to Otherworld or something?

[BroHomo]

Right. He exists.
But, people, nowadays at least, tend to be nice towards babies.

I can't wait till we return to our senses and treat babies like the shifty strangers they truly are....Ban Babies! Deliver Dogs!

Once they grow, they are less cute: no more big eyes in a round face and he starts speaking and judging the people around him.

Hmmm well I guess it depends on what they grow into....i like em when they got some years on them

he starts speaking and judging the people around him.

well if he immediately starts judging everyone around he'll deserve to be ostracized lol

It's a bit premature to consider relationships between humans and mutants in light of Shogo's existence.

Premature? It's premature to start assuming the X-Men will be anything other than cordial to human babies who at this point are premature premmies just look at the relationships they try to fostor between adult humans and Mutants

[Killerbee911]

to human babies who at this point are premature premmies just look at the relationships they try to fostor between adult humans and Mutants

I mean we only have Corsair, Melody Guthrie, Brian Braddock, Shogo,Kyle Northstar husband,Broo(who isn't a human mutant),The humans scientist that mutants hired to work for them,etc to show that Human/mutant relationship are fine. But when some people don't read books tend not to realize what is happening in books.The idea of mutants turning on their family and friends because there are not mutants has been shown quite a bit not to be true about Krakoa