Countdown for Krakoa's downfall

[Tycon]

Hickman already said in his interview that this Krakoa-thing is divided into 3 acts.

Act 1 - Honeymoon period. Everything is happy.
Act 2 - Krakoa falls. Mutants are disillusioned.
Act 3 - Undisclosed. Whatever resolution, I guess.

Hickman said there were three acts, not what the three acts are.

[Lucyinthesky]

According to the timeline Krakoa has been around 2 months, in those two moths Krakoa citizens have seen their homes being build from almost nothing(a flower) a place where they can be with their family, loved dead ones are coming back and their main protectors, the X-men, dying in a mission and being brought back almost inmediately, I don´t think they see this as part of a culture but rather a time of miracles and crucible may as well be another miracle among many.

If we are talking about a relationship, I would say that right now the people in Krakoa are in the infatuation stage so it will take a litte more time for them to begin the question stage and it makes sense that the people directly in the know, like the X-men, are questioning some things, not all because they do see the positive side of Krakoa.

Krakoa is not yet a democracy, it has a representative council who answers to the petitions of it´s citizens, maybe when it gets bigger another form of goverment will be neccesary but right now they have what the builders of Krakoa have decided they need right now, it will be interesting when/if someone decides they need another form of govemrent.

[BroHomo]

Hickman said there were three acts, not what the three acts are.

maybe Precogs have found a home after all. and they are none too happy

[Nigel909]

Why are people so eager to return to doom , gloom and endless night ?

Is it really too much to ask for uplifting stories ?

In these current dark and difficult days , do we really need more misery and depression ?

[Zelena]

Is Krakoa a democracy? Seems to be pretty much an oligarchy to me.

Krakoa is not a democracy but most of the mutants I saw in comics were born in democracies.

Suddenly they are fine with an oligarchy? With a system that doesn't care much about their opinions?

[akiresu_]

Krakoa is not a democracy but most of the mutants I saw in comics were born in democracies.

Suddenly they are fine with an oligarchy? With a system that doesn't care much about their opinions?

Uh, most mutants in X-Men are American. I think they’re setting in just fine.

[Zelena]

According to the timeline Krakoa has been around 2 months, in those two moths Krakoa citizens have seen their homes being build from almost nothing(a flower) a place where they can be with their family, loved dead ones are coming back and their main protectors, the X-men, dying in a mission and being brought back almost inmediately, I don´t think they see this as part of a culture but rather a time of miracles and crucible may as well be another miracle among many.

If we are talking about a relationship, I would say that right now the people in Krakoa are in the infatuation stage so it will take a litte more time for them to begin the question stage and it makes sense that the people directly in the know, like the X-men, are questioning some things, not all because they do see the positive side of Krakoa.

Krakoa is not yet a democracy, it has a representative council who answers to the petitions of it´s citizens, maybe when it gets bigger another form of goverment will be neccesary but right now they have what the builders of Krakoa have decided they need right now, it will be interesting when/if someone decides they need another form of govemrent.

I see very well Mystique as a political agitator.

[Zelena]

Why are people so eager to return to doom , gloom and endless night ?

Is it really too much to ask for uplifting stories ?

In these current dark and difficult days , do we really need more misery and depression ?

I heard Hickman wasn't the right man for the stories you're looking for…

[Lucyinthesky]

The places with democracies where they come from didn´t care much for their oppinions either that´s why they moved to Krakoa in the first place.

Not even in the real world a democracy is effectively a cristal clear representation of the population, most of the time it gets manipulated into representing those sectors of the population that have the means to influence the goverment but this is too much politics for a comic book I guess.

I don´t think Krakoa even has a completely stablished goverment neither it´s an oligarchy rather it´s a council developed from the different leaders of the factions that have existed between mutants since day 1 and the reason for this is to call an alliance in favor of peace between their own people.

It´s not a perfect alliance, it means having to make nice with people they would rather not talk to but they have decided that right now the interest of the population should matter more than their own, it´s quite a fragile status quo that will most probably lead to an internal crisis but right now what they have gained matters more than have thay had in the past.

I see very well Mystique as a political agitator.

XD well that has been her whole speciality but even she has to admit that "give me me wife back or I will burn this place down around you" is not exactly being political, that would make her the Nero of mutants and Krakoa is something that she can appreciate on her own, she just wants destiny back so it can be perfect and I think either magneto or xavier are going to give in when they see that sting a dragon's eye of their own making is not smart.

I also enjoy this change in the status quo where Mystque and Xavier are arguing while Magneto is sitting there in the middle being like "Erm You know we still have to deal with Nimrod right?" how things have changed XD


Edit: Now I am just waiting for the inevitable moment in which Magneto is killed or dies for some reason and while Xavier rushes to bring him back Mystique gives him the glare of the century.

[Veitha]

According to the timeline Krakoa has been around 2 months, in those two moths Krakoa citizens have seen their homes being build from almost nothing(a flower) a place where they can be with their family, loved dead ones are coming back and their main protectors, the X-men, dying in a mission and being brought back almost inmediately, I don´t think they see this as part of a culture but rather a time of miracles and crucible may as well be another miracle among many.

If we are talking about a relationship, I would say that right now the people in Krakoa are in the infatuation stage so it will take a litte more time for them to begin the question stage and it makes sense that the people directly in the know, like the X-men, are questioning some things, not all because they do see the positive side of Krakoa.

Krakoa is not yet a democracy, it has a representative council who answers to the petitions of it´s citizens, maybe when it gets bigger another form of goverment will be neccesary but right now they have what the builders of Krakoa have decided they need right now, it will be interesting when/if someone decides they need another form of govemrent.

I like your posts.

I think that there might be a polital switch further down the line. Hickman usually doesn't have characters say random stuff, he had Emma say something on the line of "The Council is a temporary thing until we get something more stable", and I think he might be pick up on that.

[Lucyinthesky]

I like your posts.

I think that there might be a polital switch further down the line. Hickman usually doesn't have characters say random stuff, he had Emma say something on the line of "The Council is a temporary thing until we get something more stable", and I think he might be pick up on that.

Agreed, what we are seeing could be just the growing pains for something else after all they are already planning an expansion so sooner or later the council will not be enough.

[ARkadelphia]

Krakoa puts the cult in culture

[scourge]

Why are people so eager to return to doom , gloom and endless night ?

Is it really too much to ask for uplifting stories ?

In these current dark and difficult days , do we really need more misery and depression ?

NO ONE IS.

And for MANY of us, Hickman is just more misery and depression. I've certainly yet to see anything "uplifting" come out of this nonsense of his.

[Steel Inquisitor]

NO ONE IS.

And for MANY of us, Hickman is just more misery and depression. I've certainly yet to see anything "uplifting" come out of this nonsense of his.

The X-men have been "uplifting" mutant terrorists, they no longer care about the harm inflicted upon humans like they used to. All the innocent people Magneto and the others killed don't warrant the slightest disapproval. It says a lot that they don't resurrect those victims with their powers.

[H-E-D]

Why are people so eager to return to doom , gloom and endless night ?

Is it really too much to ask for uplifting stories ?

In these current dark and difficult days , do we really need more misery and depression ?

This is why Hickman compared X-fans to trauma victims. Things have been so doom and gloom that they can’t believe things are actually going well. They’re always waiting for the other shoe to drop.