I had no idea what a Green Lantern was until the JL show so John was my first Lantern. Aside from having a Green Lantern who looked like me, I was automatically attatched to him by virtue of him being my first experience with the title. And he's been my favorite ever since. So you won't hear me complaing whenever he gets put into the spotlight over Hal. Shit, ever since the DCEU started talking about adding a Green Lantern, I've been hoping it would be him.
I still wonder why fans of superheroes in Japan never have these kinds of disputes even though they have 54 years worth of Ultramen, 49 years worth of Kamen Riders, and 45 years worth of sentai ("Power Rangers") teams.
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They are set up way differently. I think the (mostly) annual refreshes/new continuities being ingrained as a tradition means they don't expect anything else.
We just don't have that. I do kind of envy them a bit. Though it does pop up in some fandoms. Digimon is getting a reboot that is based on the first anime series, and the "nostalgia" complaints are rearing up. However, those are the western fans saying that, so who knows how those in Japan feel.
For me, though, it just doesn't matter because I know that the movies, shows, and comics all operate on separate realities. I appreciate films and TV shows that loyally adapt the comics (or at least strive to capture the "spirit" of the comics), but I know that a lot of the time, creative liberties will be taken. I'd imagine that a lot of fans probably feel the way I feel. However, by that token, maybe some people were upset to learn that, despite the movie telling them otherwise, Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye were actually not founding members of the Avengers.
I've also learned through my years of fandom that, unfortunately, success in other media does not translate to increased comic book sales (for the most part). If that were true, Iron Man would be outselling almost every single character. And I say this as someone who, yes, got into comics because of the DCAU. However, in spite of that, I didn't expect the DC Universe to take the shape of the DCAU and in many respects, I'm happy that it hasn't. At the same time, some of the concepts that have migrated from the DCAU into the DCU, annoy me.
And of course, the DCAU ended fourteen years ago at this point. I don't know how much relevance to the fanbase it has any more or even if it had much back then. It was a cartoon that had a dedicated cult following, but it wasn't as big as the MCU or anything like that. I'd even say that CW DC shows probably have a bigger following.
Here's the thing, though: Hal Jordan is an incredibly popular character. That's just the truth. And, obviously, it should be expected because he's been the star of the Green Lantern comics for over 50 of the 60 years the Green Lantern Corps has been a thing. So, getting rid of him in any capacity is not going to fly over well with GL fans. They tried that once, and while it gave us Kyle Rayner (which I am very grateful for), it also sparked an entire movement among the fanbase in response, dedicated to getting Hal back. Plus, he's the GL who has probably had the most success sales-wise in the comics and was at the center of the most high-profile and popular run on Green Lantern comics of all time.
Plus, the MCU has taken huge liberties with Marvel characters and at least a few of those things have not been replicated in the comics. And honestly, that's a good thing because some of those things from the movies make sense for the movies but don't make sense in the comics. Unless of course, they've changed the Marvel Universe continuity to have it so that Tony Stark gave Peter his Spider-Man costume, Tony Stark built Ultron, Hank Pym is now an old man whose daughter is dating Scott Lang, etc. In the end, the comics and the movies and the shows are all separate universes. IMO, people should let them be separate universes.
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Those series have had that format almost since inception, and the core audience is expected to age out of them very quickly.
People know going in that there's going to be a complete story with a beginning, middle and end, told over 50 or so episodes - all designed to tie-in with a new toy line each year. Comics aren't really equipped to work with that format, and there's never been much of an incentive to do so.
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I would disagree. We haven't gotten a good Dracula or Frankenstein in how long? Sure, Sherlock Holmes has had some good stuff in the past decade, but you still get a year or two in between with nothing. Sure, more people can use public domain characters - but fewer bother with them. Better to work on something you own than something free to everyone.
Do you think the characters you mentioned would have been used more effectively if they were owned? I don't think so.Disney's whole brand uses charcters from public domain like tarzan or jungle book. Again, the quality of the product you deliver will decide the profit you make.
There's also a lot of crap out there too. And even when you get quality, quantity goes way down. How many Tarzan products have there been over the years? Not bloody many. If I had to go years between my Batman fix, I'd be less than happy with the whole arrangement.
I doubt DC would stop publishing Batman comics if the character became public domain. They'd still own 90% of the Batman lore and characters.
Didio's been in charge of DC for the 10+ years I've been reading and collecting comics monthly so seeing his removal from power in DC is an end of an era. I would have liked it even more if Didio leaving put a stop to the 5G relaunch but I guess that's been in the works for too long now.