“To the future or to the past. To a time when thought is free, when men are different from one another and do not live alone - to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone: from the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink - greetings!" - Winston Smith
Mark Waid is kind of crazy and overly emotional. I would not entrust him to run a company where he must work with others under him.
Really? Okay, so tell me. What has happened in the past few years at DC that has been ground-shaking and at the same time received much critical acclaim?? A lot of what has come out of DC for the past several years has been either rehashing old things that worked in the past (i.e. another Batman story from Frank Miller, Before Watchmen, etc.) or just a series of controversial moves that fans have not taken to. For example, the treatment of fan-favorite characters like Wally West, the whole "Ric Grayson" situation, the mess that they've made of continuity, behind-the-scenes fighting (of which Didio was a key contributor), etc.
You keep deriding "nostalgia" and classic characters as "outdated" and "repetitive", but the stuff that's been coming out of DC and the directions DC has taken since 2011 are not working!! There was a brief glimmer of hope with Rebirth, but even that was snuffed out because of influence from Didio. We need to bring back the creative environment that allowed DC to fire on all cylinders like it did in the 80s and 90s: one that fostered actual experimentation and not simply the appearance of experimentation. That is not what we had with Didio.
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18 years of DC comics free fall.
I’m hopeful and afraid at the same time. who’ll come next? It will be happiness or bad to worse?
Anyway we can hope for awhile.
My vote would go for Karen Berger.
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"There's magic in the sound of analog audio." - CNET.
Oh fuuuuck.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
FINALLY.
This is the best news.
Ever since Infinite Crisis, the DC Universe has been in a weird flux of not sure if it wants to be a multiverse or not.
One month it is, one month it's not.
We've had Superboy Prime super-punching, Flashpoint, Convergence, Multiversity, Doomsday Clock...
And we're still at the starting line, spinning tires.
"There's magic in the sound of analog audio." - CNET.
Then don't be in flux. Just create a good road map. Encorporate all the eras. Johns did decent in doomsday clock. I want the multiverse. For instance, if i don't particularly care for barry allen flash or postcrisis superman? Why should i be stuck with them? I want an orphan vigilante strongman superman or a kal el superman(not clark) who is rough around the edges and isn't much of saint or someone who grew into becoming the flash like wally. I can't get that if i am stuck with no-multiverse. They practically erased prior versions of characters with crisis on infinite earths. Its was darn shame.
It alllll started around 2003:
Hawkman title turning into Hawkgirl title with drastically different tone and direction.
YJ and Titans Graduation Day to suddenly cancel and have Outsiders and Teen Titans.
Swapping Winnick and whoever it was that was on Green Arrow so both GL and GA would tank.
JSA getting weaker. JLA getting watered down and starting to look like Superfriends.
Infinity Crisis yes. But all the build up to it came first.
Identity Crisis.
His Beast Boy reversion.
Constant retelling of different characters' origin stories for no reason and frequently.
There was a lot of build-up before Infinity Crisis to clear the tables for Mr. Nobody was asking for an OMAC title.
I still stand by my assertion that DC was finally fixed from LSOH, Hawkpeople, Power Girl, and any other dangling continuity mess-ups and was moving forward. All Didio accomplished was effing up EVERY DC property that ever existed.
Now. Is Mark Waid still putzing around with that print of his? Can someone please go knock on his door and beg him to take over and fix everything?
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Can't say as I'm surprised by this news in the slightest. Despite his reported ability to maneuver corporate politics, Didio has escaped being fired a couple times already. Sooner or later, this was bound to happen.
Like with Dick Giordano, Paul Levitz and Mike Carlin, I think it will take a couple years to full appreciate and understand Didio's tenure as DC's head honcho. From my perspective, there have been incredible highs that are amongst my favorite periods as a comic fan and absolute lows in which I completely stopped following comics altogether.
My one hope is that whomever takes over, since it seems unlikely that Jim Lee actually wants to take over the whole shebang, is as genuine in their enthusiasm and appreciation for comics and comics creators as Didio was. If we get some corporate toady, I don't think anyone is going to be happy.
Exactly. From what I can tell, DiDio loved big shows, drama, and being in the spotlight. You certainly can find successful publishers like that, but it's certainly not a requirement.
Yep. The direct market was a lifeboat, but now it's a straitjacket. I think DiDio the salesman and businessman understood this, but that DiDio the creative visionary couldn't see past the type of stories that thrived within the straitjacket. A different audience would require not only different stories, different ways of telling them, and different storytellers.
Wise words. One thing I want to embellish upon: "his vision of the DCU".
It's clear DiDio was highly passionate about and had a vision of the DCU. But what about DC as a company, and the people who work for them?
(On editors leaving DC)
You might be thinking about Burbankology.
I think this move was rather sudden on WB's/AT&T's part, and a lot will depend on how they will act. Because my impression is that DC has been rather poorly managed (and here I'm talking stuff like office and personnel politics) for quite a while, and this is leaving a huge void ready to be filled with drama and infighting unless a firm, or at least steady hand, appears really soon. Maybe not in the form of a new sheriff in town, but clear messages and policies that are followed.
This tweet from Jennifer de Guzman struck me as being really true, and worth thinking about:
A lot of fans seem to be wondering what Dan DiDio’s departure from DC means for the characters; I’m more interested in knowing what it means for women who work or would like to work at the DC office.
«Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])