Voctor von Doom vs the DC Universe

[Steel Inquisitor]

Victor somehow lands in the DCU and wants to conquer it. What happens?

1) Golden Age
2) Silver Age
3) Post-Crisis
4) New 52
5) DC Rebirth

[Beadle]

Who in the blue hell is Voctor von Doom?

Is he more often known as Dictor Doom?

[Alan2099]

Who in the blue hell is Voctor von Doom?

Is he more often known as Dictor Doom?

He's the cheap Mexican knock off version of Dr. Doom.

"Bah! Curse you Señor Fantástico!"

[Harbinger19]

It’s Doom after power-jacking TARDIS energy from the Doctor. And then Barney comes on and sings his theme music

Hey Mr. Victor Voctor Voppity-Vop
I likea the way that you Doccity-Doc
Hey Mr. Dictor Doctor Boppity-Bop
I likea the way that you Doccity-Doc
With your Bands.

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[Shai-Hulud]

Victor somehow lands in the DCU and wants to conquer it. What happens?

1) Golden Age
2) Silver Age
3) Post-Crisis
4) New 52
5) DC Rebirth

Right off the bat, Doom is at a disadvantage because he's lost his base of operations, Latveria, his own kingdom.

If he conquers a country, DC Earth will view him as a usurper, and the JLA gets involved. If he doesn't, he loses his regality and becomes just another arch-villain. A big part of Doom's character is that he really is a monarch, like Panther and Namor.

So that goes.

Also, he needs money, bases, equipment, lackeys. Where's he get them?

I think Doom would automatically focus on the biggest target for these, which is Lex Luthor. Whether Lex is a science-villain, corporate oligarch, or both, he's the mother-lode for secret bases and super-tech.

So Doom walks in expecting an easy conquest and finds he's in for a real fight. And since magic is different here, all his dimensional entity spells fall flat. Depending upon which Lex we're talking about and how well armed he is (green-and-purple anti-Superman armor), Doom could get canned right at the outset.

[Pendaran]

So Doom walks in expecting an easy conquest

Why would he other than that you say he would? Why would the guy not take the time to try and learn about the new world he is in before messing around with it?

And since magic is different here, all his dimensional entity spells fall flat.

Nothing about being in another universe prevents his magic from reaching other dimensions.

Depending upon which Lex we're talking about and how well armed he is (green-and-purple anti-Superman armor), Doom could get canned right at the outset.

Only if Doom rolls in like an idiot as opposed to being a guy who repeatedly when planning anything will try to take as extended preparations as he can, as can be demonstrated a whole bunch of times.

Your post is basically "Doom loses because I say so, and will not even show a bare minimum of competence that he has shown, because I say so."

[Beadle]

Given that Doom has time-buggering tech, he can comfortably do all the prep he needs in an instant. So yeah. When he shows up, he’s fully clued up.

[Slade1]

Given that Doom has time-buggering tech, he can comfortably do all the prep he needs in an instant. So yeah. When he shows up, he’s fully clued up.

He doesn't need time tech. No one know who he is so he can plan and prep in peace.

[Sharpandpointies]

Are we assuming he gets access to all of his magic?

It's a valid point about the dimensional entreaties. They might not pan out, due to Cytorrak, Valtorr, and various others not even existing in the DC Universe. I expect it's up to the OP to define whether or not he can use his most powerful spells due to their reliance on beings/places not-native to DC.

Mind, despite Marvel sorcery being quite different from DC stuff (DC seems to have the whole 'You mostly need to be BORN magic, and a lot of it is special powers' thing going), I expect he could still manipulate the DC universe's magical energies for his more commonplace spells. Certainly he would keep his own personal magical energies, which are not insignificant.

...given time, I can totally see him making up new dimensional spells that actually call upon the DC beings. Trigon, for example.

[Shai-Hulud]

Why would he other than that you say he would? Why would the guy not take the time to try and learn about the new world he is in before messing around with it?

Nothing about being in another universe prevents his magic from reaching other dimensions.

Only if Doom rolls in like an idiot as opposed to being a guy who repeatedly when planning anything will try to take as extended preparations as he can, as can be demonstrated a whole bunch of times.

Your post is basically "Doom loses because I say so, and will not even show a bare minimum of competence that he has shown, because I say so."

Fair enough.

But for magic I think he'd have to acquire a different set of dimensional entreaties.

If the MU dimensional entities can reach into the DCU, that's a whole different ball game, leading to cosmic entities getting into turf wars.

[Alan2099]

Right off the bat, Doom is at a disadvantage because he's lost his base of operations, Latveria, his own kingdom.

If he conquers a country, DC Earth will view him as a usurper, and the JLA gets involved. If he doesn't, he loses his regality and becomes just another arch-villain. A big part of Doom's character is that he really is a monarch, like Panther and Namor.

So that goes.

Also, he needs money, bases, equipment, lackeys. Where's he get them?

I agree that Doom's first step is finding something he can rule. However I think he could manage to find a small third world country and stabilize it without causing any huge waves i the super human community.

Once he has a country, he works to legitimize it. He at the very least makes it appear to be a better place to the rest of the world. Now he's got a base of power, political pull, resources, and loyal subjects. NOW is when he starts really studying the world.

I actually think he's more likely to come into contact with Ra's al Ghul and his league before he come into contact with the Justice League, and if Doom manages to take control of THAT then he's really got some power and influence.

On top of this, the Justice League doesn't know him. They don't know who he is or what he's capable of. It's possible Doom could claim to be a hero and get in their good graces.

As for magic, I'd LOVE to see Dr. Doom go digging around in the magic community to see what's what and who's who and then bringing in John Constantine to help him get up to speed on DC magics.

[Shai-Hulud]

Another possibility for Doom is going for the Fortress of Solitude.

Arrange for Superman to be distracted, get inside the Fortress, and lay a kryptonite, red sun radiation or magical trap for Superman when he gets back.

This might be the most appealing target, as Clark has so many weaknesses, the alien tech is super-advanced, and the Fortress is in a remote place, leaving Doom free to go about his business completely undisturbed after (if) he can take it.

I seem to recall that many of these Fortresses (in their various incarnations) are loaded with robots, which is one of Doom's top disciplines.

[Beadle]

I could see Doom reaching some sort of mutually-beneficial agreement with Black Adam and having free run of Kahndaq.