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    Quote Originally Posted by basbash99 View Post
    Man, the anti-MCU arguments in this thread are giving me deja vu all over again. Waiting for the MCU = Pixar argument to surface again.
    That account isnt around any longer or untill he makes a new one atleast. But it's always the same 3 people. Projecting they're personal opinion onto the masses despite all evidence to the contrary. Not liking Disney is fine but they see a couple angry youtube video, mostly made by the go woke go broke crowd and think that the anti Disney MCU outlook is a popular opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    It was silly Iger thinking he was going to devalue the MCU. Read his book. He devalued marvel by taking out the edge leaving the door open for making films that became bad parodies.



    I painted them rightfully as artistic failures. The genre is the least respected genre in fiction. It is because of Iger's MCU movies.

    Did you see me denying MCU commercialism, many bad movies still sells DVDs. 50 shades of Grey.

    Average Joker had already phased out mediocre Endgame by the autumn 2019, the decline was sealed after Hollywood directors went on a tirade about these SPH movies. There was a lot of objective cinema rightful thought to what they were saying that has been proven.

    Iger made bad films with Marvel plastered all over it. He should have stepped down after Iron Man 2.
    Wow so much wrong with this post. First "artistic Failures" is just your opinion. Please stop trying to sell that as fact.
    And to just add one more: Why should he have stepped down after Iron Man 2 if Marvel was still their own and not yet owned by Disney. If you put out this nonsense at least try to get the Facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Drum roll please to the most wasted thread ever. what we have on repeat record is MCU commercialism and faux popularity. This is the substitute for defending unintellectuals bad parody movies, when the genre has already done better to help itself. Iger is the evil bad guy winning.
    What did the MCU ever do to you to Warrant writing stuff like your comments here. " faux popularity" really?

    If I do not like a movie or a Franchise I would not waste my time with writing comment after comment trying to sell my opinion as fact and make stuff up to be "Right".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    That account isnt around any longer or untill he makes a new one atleast. But it's always the same 3 people. Projecting they're personal opinion onto the masses despite all evidence to the contrary. Not liking Disney is fine but they see a couple angry youtube video, mostly made by the go woke go broke crowd and think that the anti Disney MCU outlook is a popular opinion.
    I think it is a good example of the filter bubble. "My opinion is the only one that matters and I have stuff to back it up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    And yet , the MCU has been wildly successful with fans and critics alike.

    You’re second paragraph here is you just making stuff up to make a non-existent point. It’s ok to not like the MCU/Disney, no need to make stuff up about critics and the likes.
    Haven’t millennial critics gotten exposed as unreliable frauds one two many times? You know nothing about critical acclaim. Critical acclaim are only reserved for intellectual deeper meaning movies Iger hated so much or misconstrued as too adult leaning for Disney.
    Directors were objective enough to call out MCU abuse of CGI and mediocre third grade plotlines. Critics should have been doing it a long while ago if they cared about where comic movies were heading before it crashed and burned. Some directors cared enough to voice out their concerns, and what Iger could do was silence them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Valentis View Post
    Iger is more guilty of mishandling Star Wars. He was clueless with that franchise.
    I haven’t seen Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Waiting for it on DVD. I trusted the redditers, they said it was bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Haven’t millennial critics gotten exposed as unreliable frauds one two many times? You know nothing about critical acclaim. Critical acclaim are only reserved for intellectual deeper meaning movies Iger hated so much or misconstrued as too adult leaning for Disney.
    Directors were objective enough to call out MCU abuse of CGI and mediocre third grade plotlines. Critics should have been doing it a long while ago if they cared about where comic movies were heading before it crashed and burned. Some directors cared enough to voice out their concerns, and what Iger could do was silence them.
    No. Critical acclaim is more than buying off people for awards by people who think Crash is high cinema. Iger doesn't hate them. LOL Directors who were long past their prime, are envious of the attention they once had, and are afraid of the future they won't be apart of. The projection is though the roof with this post, full of hyperbole. It's telling that you didn't respond to my post about bad super-hero movies. Let me guess: you liked Snyder's DCEU films?

    I haven’t seen Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Waiting for it on DVD. I trusted the redditers, they said it was bad.
    It wasn't good, but it wasn't as bad as you think. Aren't they the same people who hated The Last Jedi and thought Rey was a Mary-Sue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowfyr View Post
    I think it is a good example of the filter bubble. "My opinion is the only one that matters and I have stuff to back it up"
    Yea people live in a echo chamber. You search out people who agree with you on youtube and then the algorithm just recommends that insignificant(Numbers wise) section of youtube to you. Now your left with this false sense of reality thinking everyone feels the way you do. When really it's a very small group of hateful people. Social media is the same. But yea the fact this person wanted Iger to step down after a movie that wasnt even made by disney is funny. Avengers was the first Marvel movie released by Disney.

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    Haven’t millennial critics gotten exposed as unreliable frauds one two many times? You know nothing about critical acclaim. Critical acclaim are only reserved for intellectual deeper meaning movies Iger hated so much or misconstrued as too adult leaning for Disney.
    Any kind of mainstream movie can receive critical acclaim. Again, this is another false claim. Most of Marvel's movies (not all) have received critical acclaim.

    Directors were objective enough to call out MCU abuse of CGI and mediocre third grade plotlines. Critics should have been doing it a long while ago if they cared about where comic movies were heading before it crashed and burned. Some directors cared enough to voice out their concerns, and what Iger could do was silence them.
    How many Directors called out the MCU? Maybe a handful against thousands of directors in Hollywood and the dozens or so that worked with Marvel. Iger silencing anyone isn't backed by any evidence again. Why do you keep citing stuff that isn't backed by any evidence at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Yea people live in a echo chamber. You search out people who agree with you on youtube and then the algorithm just recommends that insignificant(Numbers wise) section of youtube to you. Now your left with this false sense of reality thinking everyone feels the way you do. When really it's a very small group of hateful people. Social media is the same. But yea the fact this person wanted Iger to step down after a movie that wasnt even made by disney is funny. Avengers was the first Marvel movie released by Disney.
    Thanks , echo chamber was the word i was searching for.

    One of the reasons I am not a fan of Social Media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post

    Iger made bad films with Marvel plastered all over it. He should have stepped down after Iron Man 2.
    Unfortunately, there was a major stumbling block that prevented Bob Iger from stepping down after Iron Man 2. It was the fact that he had nothing to do with the movie in the first place. Little important facts like that carry a lot of weight in a debate like this. That movie predates the Disney takeover. The long term plans for the MCU had been tentatively laid in place by Kevin Feige long before Iger was ever involved in any capacity whatsoever. You'd know that if any of your recent posts weren't personal projections of the highest order.

    I don't like Disney either for the record. There's not liking something though and digging yourself into a hole with dogmatic arguments that don't hold up to any level of real world scrutiny. I'd stay off Youtube for a while.
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