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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    No you are misreading what is on that panel. Which does not say what you think it says.
    So it's saying mutants are dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    Wanda didnt commit genocide, Cassandra Nova did. Wanda committed, at most, manslaughter of however many people. Genocide requires the premeditated murder of a whole section of society. She didnt do that.

    Wanda never set out to kill an entire race of people, she took away their powers. The vast majority did not die. Genocide requires death to be applicable. There isnt really a real world word for what Wanda did. It's more akin to ethnic cleansing, which can be done without killing, than genocide, which requires premeditated killing as part of the definition of what it is.
    Ironically, "ethnic cleansing" is more of a euphemism for genocide than a meaningfully distinct alternative, at least as recognized by international law and/or human rights activist organizations in real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    And another thing, no, Wanda wasn't in her right mind. She had just discovered that her brother had manipulated her and Magneto wasn't doing much better. Her children and husband were dead and everything was a lie and that's on top of her previous fragile state.

    But no, she is so much worse than Apocalypse and Sinister
    Uh um , abusing her powers to that point totaly everyone's fault, wanda fans just take the L

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    I heard she was living a happy life far away from mutants… Why would she want to be involved again with mutant business?
    Hickman wouldn't keep bringing her up if he didn't intend for her to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    So it's saying mutants are dead?
    I'm saying some mutants died. Which is confirmed by Emma while she is in Cerebra in that very scene in New X-Men.

    And I'm saying that your panel does not say no mutants died.

    That's not a retcon that was the whole intent of decimation

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    It's also canon that she was being affected by an outside force that caused her head to get messed up but everyone just likes to ignore that.

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    Right it just says the million missing mutants arent all dead. Emma even adds as far as she can tell. No retcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    It's also canon that she was being affected by an outside force that caused her head to get messed up but everyone just likes to ignore that.
    And canon that she sought out the force despite knowing the consequences and that it was dark magic when she was sane. She was more sympathetic before Childrens Crusade

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I'm saying some mutants died. Which is confirmed by Emma while she is in Cerebra in that very scene in New X-Men.

    And I'm saying that your panel does not say no mutants died.

    That's not a retcon that was the whole intent of decimation
    New X-Men wasn't written by Brian Bendis, it has no bearing on House of M itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    It's also canon that she was being affected by an outside force that caused her head to get messed up but everyone just likes to ignore that.
    one that she sought to bring back her homunculli abominations, you know the creation of a super sane and responsible person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    I know quite a few Hindu's that would disagree with you. On religious terms.
    Then they are wrong. There've multiplie violent revolution against British empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    It's also canon that she was being affected by an outside force that caused her head to get messed up but everyone just likes to ignore that.
    Was it one of these forces that make you racist? No it wasnt it just made her wishes come true. Too bad she wished for genocide.

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    You guys Bendis used Wanda as a McGuffin to tell his story. And then all the retcons that came after made it worse. And then all the writers writing her like she was so blase about it. And she had nothing to be sorry about didnt help.

    So agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHRNIHAL View Post
    Then they are wrong. There've multiplie violent revolution against British empire.
    That didn't succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    New X-Men wasn't written by Brian Bendis, it has no bearing on House of M itself.
    Decimation was planed with the knowledge of HoM and immediately launched after the event.

    And once again the panel you posted does not say what you think it says.

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