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    cause melody's a badass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    They havent' done anything even remotely close to what nazis did, so let's not reach now. Actually, the flatscans might have done some genocide tho.
    they are killing disabled people, only difference is that they come back

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    Killing people to give them their powers back seems to edgy to me to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    Cuz Wolverine might be uncle, but Apocalypse is daddy.
    hard to argue this

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzero23 View Post
    Killing people to give them their powers back seems to edgy to me to be honest.
    the plan makes no sense. why not great a queue by sorting out at random?
    easier and no violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    They're still the good guys.
    ROTFLMAO.

    I love edgelord rationalizing. It's so cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    they are killing disabled people, only difference is that they come back
    I -- context and purpose matter, spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    they are killing disabled people, only difference is that they come back
    No lies detected we-

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    they are killing disabled people, only difference is that they come back
    so basicaly its a completly alien situation that applying our human logic would be silly since the whole point of the story is a paradigm shift?

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    We haven't talked enough about Paige (in her Bachalo WATXM costume!) and Angelo hanging around together <3

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    Not sure why the crucible has to be a spectacle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    The Wills are... complicated. They're going to need to sit down and make a list of things that you cannot require from a Resurrection. Like being turned into a Chimera or becoming a copy of someone else. Common sense should be enough to sort things out but it's going to be indeed hard.
    Yes, but if there’s any character on Krakoa who would just do it without asking permission, and enlist The Five to help him do it, it would be Nathan. That’s my point. Totally his style to just do it and ask for forgiveness after. And he’s quite manipulative. I’d bet if anyone could convince The Five to resurrect someone as a more powerful version of themself it’s him.

    Hell, maybe he does it to be free of the T-O virus? I’m personally not a huge fan of limitless, godlike powerful Cable. Plus his powers have been shown to ultimately burn him out and kill him at full levels. So perhaps he asks them to put some natural limitations on them to prevent this. And maybe he’s the first one to chimera himself and add a new ability that his previous body didn’t have? That could be interesting to play around with. Just saying. Not sure what that would be. Maybe something to compensate for the physical durability and strength that the T-O virus gave him, in being half bionic. Since he’s nerfing his own psionic powers to keep from burning himself out, I could see him thinking he should compensate in other ways. And him teaming up with Sinister to do this would be even more perfect, since he created him in the first place. Not to mention that Sinister already did this to himself, using Thunderbird’s body and physical power set of enhanced strength, speed and durability as his genetic template.

    Lots and lots for a writer to play around with there I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I -- context and purpose matter, spirit.
    what do you men? it is ok to kill people violently if they come back better (without their disabilities)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    they are killing disabled people, only difference is that they come back
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    what do you men? it is ok to kill people violently if they come back better (without their disabilities)?
    The book makes a clear point that the crucible is an way to prevent depowered mutants from commiting suicide and is also a person's choice to participate in or not. They aren't throwing every single depowered mutant into a colosseum and making them fight to the death... yet!

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    Also are we not going to discuss that Warlock moment?

    Cause that seems far more unsettling than it should given it's WARLOCK

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    X-Men #7 is a really weird and disturbing issue. It has that uncanniness that reminds of Moore-Totleben's final issue of Miracleman. That mix of optimism/pessimism, fear/hope.

    The dialogue in this issue is really good. The stuff between Cyclops and Wolverine, and especially Nightcrawler and Cyclops. While the interactions between Apocalypse and Melody Guthrie is also great.

    I love this shout out to Caspar David Friedrich.

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