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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Dr. Strange also forgot what Chaos Magic was, so he makes mistakes too.
    Wandas chaos wave was omniversal shown by tge omniscient narrator and Roma. As I said Beast visited all those realities the only mutants who kept their powers were derivatives of the 198 who were protected by Strange and Frost.

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    i still to this day how did emma...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    wanda is gonna remain irrelevant, no one say's its morally correct but cultures tell stories, and like all stories its not completly true, but the effect of the decimation was such its normal mutants are still afraid of the human super hero that wished mutants would go away
    If she’s irrelevant, why do people keep making threads about her?

    And if characters are afraid of her, how does that make her irrelevant either?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    If she’s irrelevant, why do people keep making threads about her?

    And if characters are afraid of her, how does that make her irrelevant either?

    if you consider being the candyman of a nation relevant then you should be satisfied

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    i still to this day how did emma...
    Bendis I guess.

    Ms. Marvel and the Avengers seemed to think the telepaths could protect them from Wandas powers. In the final issue Dr Strange says he and Emma protected the 198 from Wanda. So unless Emma selectively made Wanda forget about 200 mutants.

    Also if I remember correctly, Iceman had one of his mutations deleted and Emma unlocked another. So he needs to go through the crucible to get back the other. Same with Polaris
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Bendis I guess.

    Ms. Marvel and the Avengers seemed to think the telepaths could protect them from Wandas powers. In the final issue Dr Strange says he and Emma protected the 198 from Wanda. So unless Emma selectively made Wanda forget about 200 mutants.
    emma couldnt keep dani/jubs and polaris in mind?????????????? maybe sofia????? stan card destroyed, i unstan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    emma couldnt keep dani/jubs and polaris in mind?????????????? maybe sofia????? stan card destroyed, i unstan
    Well Sofia is trash though. She's second worst to Wallflower

    Jubilee I feel for. Its only a theory though. I don't know hpw Bendis intended it to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    if you consider being the candyman of a nation relevant then you should be satisfied
    Relevant has no inherent “goodness” or “badness” to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Relevant has no inherent “goodness” or “badness” to it.
    I think thats how Wanda works best. No inherent goodness or badness, just opportunistic, selfish, entitled with a dash pf daddy issues and perhaps a carrier of a urea cycle defect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I think thats how Wanda works best. No inherent goodness or badness, just opportunistic, selfish, entitled with a dash pf daddy issues and perhaps a carrier of a urea cycle defect.
    If you support bad writing, be my guest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    If you support bad writing, be my guest.
    I think the stories that came out of decimation were some of the best. Wanda works best as an antagonist to mutants. The Avengers can do whatever they want with her. But whenever there is a crossover it should never be forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I think thats how Wanda works best. No inherent goodness or badness, just opportunistic, selfish, entitled with a dash pf daddy issues and perhaps a carrier of a urea cycle defect.
    I think it's how I see the Krakoans… minus the daddy issues, of course. (The daddy issues concern more Quicksilver and Lorna, though, imho…)
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    I think it's how I see the Krakoans… minus the daddy issues, of course. (The daddy issues concern more Quicksilver and Lorna, though, imho…)
    I think one is a statement based on a single character who has a history of those things while the other is a sweeping statement to thousands of mutants all with different perosanlities, histories, ideals and aspirations who aren't homogenous. So while the statement could apply to some Krakoans its false to say it applies to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    If you support bad writing, be my guest.
    when its the majority of writting that characther Is, the only other option is the cassandra cain new 52 treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Wandas chaos wave was omniversal shown by tge omniscient narrator and Roma. As I said Beast visited all those realities the only mutants who kept their powers were derivatives of the 198 who were protected by Strange and Frost.
    Chaos Wave wasn't Wanda power
    In a Dr Strange comic from last year they call her reality warp just Planetary

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