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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    The better question is, who has the worst FEMALE rogues gallery? 'Cuz for how popular and beloved Spidey's rogues gallery is, he sure is slacking on A-List female baddies.
    To think that Venom was originally conceptualized as female.

    I think some of Spidey's underutilized women villains have potential though: Paper Doll, Stunner, Slasher, Verna of The Inheritors, the Kravinoff women and Screwball (but she's currently a good guy in Mary Jane's solo title).

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    I always really like Princess Python and wished they had done more with her. I dont know whose rogue you would call her because I have seen her in several different comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    The better question is, who has the worst FEMALE rogues gallery? 'Cuz for how popular and beloved Spidey's rogues gallery is, he sure is slacking on A-List female baddies.
    *applause* Woefully underdeveloped.
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    Web of Spider-Man #1 Apr 1985
    "Til Death Do Us Part!"
    This story continues from Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #100...

    Peter Parker has just ended his relationship with the Black Cat.
    Deciding to go out as Spider-Man, Peter can't shake the feeling that something is out to get him.
    Distracted by the sound of his neighbors giving up on sun-tanning, he doesn't see that
    his old alien costume has returned and disguised itself as one of his red and blue costumes.
    Ironically, he thinks about how the costume almost bonded had it
    not been for the help of Reed Richards removing it from his body.
    As he prepares to put on his web-shooters, Peter catches his reflection in the mirror
    and is horrified to see the symbiote reveal itself and cover his entire body.

    Meanwhile, on the Lower Eastside, a gang of thugs robs an elderly woman of her social security money.
    One member, a jittery man named Pigeon, questions why they mugged the woman
    since they have been able to complete a bank robbery with their new wings.
    His pals, Sugar Face, and Gripes aren't overly concerned with Pigeon's worries,
    even if their leader, Honcho, is upset that they are late for their meeting.

    When they catch up with Honcho, he is furious that they are late and figures out that they mugged someone.
    He warns them that such attention will bring Spider-Man down on them,
    as they have all been captured by the wall-crawler in the past.
    However, Honcho hopes to change things since his stint in prison.
    An engineer by trade, he befriended the Vulture
    and charmed the notorious super-villain enough to learn the secrets of his wings.

    Having created them all flying suits, Honcho and his friends have become
    the Vulturions to make it rich and get revenge against Spider-Man.

    Back at Peter Parker's apartment, Spider-Man struggles to try and get outside
    and to Mister Fantastic, but the alien symbiote fights him the whole way.
    A few blocks away, Mary Jane Watson runs into Peter's Aunt May while out shopping.
    May is surprised to hear that Harry and Liz Osborn are having a baby, as she and Peter aren't talking presently.
    May explains that she is still mad at Peter for dropping out of college.
    Mary Jane tries to speak in Peter's defense, but Aunt May still can't accept that Peter is giving up on being a scientist.
    Mary Jane notices that Aunt May is interested in a hat, but May decides against buying it because she doesn't have the money.

    Elsewhere, Spider-Man continues to struggle to free himself from the symbiote, but it continues to resist him.
    Eventually, the web-slinger is spotted by one of the Vulturions who heads back to alert the others.
    With the costume keeping him from going to the Baxter Building, Spider-Man
    realizes that the symbiote can read his mind, and that's how it keeps tripping him up.

    Gripes notice this and nabs the wall-crawler, thinking him insane when Spider-Man tries to explain that he is fighting his costume.
    Gripes rejoins his teammates. As they fly across the city, the approach a nearby church.
    Spider-Man begs the symbiote to stop fighting him, otherwise, the Vulturions will kill them both.
    Much to his relief, the symbiote stops fighting him

    and he manages to incapacitate all the Vulturions except for one.
    When he struggles to figure out how to get rid of the Symbiote he
    hears the church bell toll and realizes the sound could destroy the alien.
    Hearing his, the symbiote starts fighting him again.
    However, Spider-Man manages to wreck the Vulturion's wings and force a crash landing in the belfry.

    The sound of the ringing bells is overpowering. As the last Vulturion flees, Spider-Man
    stays behind, resisting the pain of the loud bells in the hopes it will force the symbiote off him.

    Thinking he is going to die, Spider-Man can't stop thinking about his Aunt May,
    and doesn't want to die without reconciling with her, as well as unresolved feelings for Mary Jane.
    Suddenly, the symbiote separates itself from Peter's body and tries to flee.
    However, the symbiosis between Peter and the alien being had filled the
    creature with love for Peter Parker and it risks its life to drag Peter to safety.
    With Parker safe, the creature strokes his face one last time before seemingly crumbling to bits.

    NOTE: The Web of Spiderman series essentially replaced the Marvel Team-Up title as Marvel's third regular series featuring Spider-Man.

    Story by Louise Simonson. Art by Greg LaRocque and Jim Mooney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    The better question is, who has the worst FEMALE rogues gallery? 'Cuz for how popular and beloved Spidey's rogues gallery is, he sure is slacking on A-List female baddies.
    It is hard to have female villains if your a male hero. I can just hear the uproar from "that crowd" if month after month you had Spider-Man smacking women in the face while making wisecracks. You know it is true. Spidey would be the poster boy for toxic male abuse of women on blogs all over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Iron Man has Mandarin, Stane Jr, Ultimo, Living Laser, Madame Masque, Whiplash, Titanium Man, Ghost, Fin Fang Foom, Crimson Dynamo, The Hammers and Alcohol.
    Exactly. He has far from the worst rogues gallery. Could it be better? Of course it could, but it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.
    "We live in a world of cowards. We live in a world full of small minds who are afraid. We are ruled by those who refuse to risk anything of their own. Who guard their over bloated paucities of power with money. With false reasoning. With measured hesitance. With prideful, recalcitrant inaction. With hateful invective. With weapons. F@#K these selfish fools and their prevailing world order." Tony Stark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    It is hard to have female villains if your a male hero. I can just hear the uproar from "that crowd" if month after month you had Spider-Man smacking women in the face while making wisecracks. You know it is true. Spidey would be the poster boy for toxic male abuse of women on blogs all over the internet.
    But if it’s female superhero is that okay?

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    anyway what are people's thoughts on ghost rider's villains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxin45 View Post
    But if it’s female superhero is that okay?
    Oh if its female heroes beating the hell out of female villains then it is empowering and fine. Even better if it is a female hero beating up male villains.

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    List of rogues galleries:

    Black Panther - Ulysses Klaw, Erik Killmonger, Man-Ape, Baron Macabre, King Cadaver, Kiber the Cruel, Madame Slay, Salamander K'ruel, Princess Zanda, Malice, Lord Karnaj, Sombre, Tetu, Zenzi, Reverend Achebe, Sons of the Serpent, Colonel Fritz Klaue

    Captain America - Red Skull, Baron Zemo, HYDRA, U.L.T.I.M.A.T.U.M., Secret Empire, Batroc ze Lee-pair, Solarr, the Porcupine, the Animus, Serpent Society, Scorpion, Mister Hyde, Scarecrow

    Carol Danvers - Mystique, Deathbird, Moonstone, Toxie Doxie, Grace Valentine, Destructor, Doomsday Man, the Storyteller, Warren Traveler, Yon-Rogg, Hala the Accuser, Dr. Eve

    Daredevil - The Kingpin, Bullseye, the Hand, Owl, Bullet, Stilt-Man, Turk, Typhoid Mary, Tombstone, Mister Hyde, Mister Fear, Death-Stalker, Gladiator, the Eel, Electro, Mysterio

    Deadpool - Francis, Allison Kemp, Hit-Monkey, Madcap, T-Ray, Macho Gomez, Dr. Killebrew, Dr. Whitby, Black Box, Black Swan, Barton Utler, Vetis, Taskmaster

    Doctor Strange - Baron Mordo, Nightmare, Dormammu, the Dweller-in-Darkness, Shuma-Gorath, Zom

    Ghost Rider - Mephisto, Blackheart, Deathwatch, Blackout, Hag & Troll, Null the Living Darkness, Wallow, Vengeance, Centurious, Lilith, the Orb, the Water Wizard, Steel Wind, Scarecrow

    The Hulk - Abomination, Mister Hyde, Madman, the Glob, the Wendigo, the Leader, the U-Foes, Zzzax, Mercy, the Gamma Corps, Rock, Redeemer, the Crawling Unknown, Sh'mballah

    Iron Fist - Steel Serpent, Zhou Chen, Scimitar, Bushmaster, Crane Mother, El Aguila, Ferocia, Nightshade, Quan Yaozu, Junzo Muto, Death Sting, Council of Lou-Shi, Master Khan, Batroc the Leaper, the Constrictor, the Wrecking Crew, Bullseye

    Iron Man - Mandarin, Crimson Dynamo, the Unicorn, Titanium Man, Iron Monger, Justin Hammer, Sunset Bain, Doctor Doom, the Ghost, Blacklash, the Blizzard, Firebrand, Spymaster, Madame Masque, Firepower, the Melter, Sunturion, Living Laser, Fin Fang Foom

    Jessica Drew - Viper, the Brothers Grimm, the Needle, the Flying Tiger, Nekra, Dr. Karl Malus, the Hangman, Gypsy Moth, the Human Fly, Daddy Long Legs, Turner D. Century, the Waxman, Morgan Le Fey

    Luke Cage - Cockroach Hamilton, Black Mariah, Cornell Cottonmouth, Hardcore, John Bushmaster, Chemistro, Cheshire Cat, Stiletto, Piranha Jones, Billy Bob Rackham, Willis Stryker, Coldfire, Shades, Comanche

    Moon Knight - Bushman, Stained Glass Scarlet, the Profile, Sun King, Black Spectre, Midnight Man, Morpheus, the Hellbent, Slasher, Shadow Knight

    Nova - Condor, Diamondhead, Megaman, the Corrupter, Powerhouse, Supernova, Sphinx

    The Punisher - Jigsaw, Barracuda, Saracen, The Kingpin, Damage, Thorn, Rosalie Carbone, Rapido, Ma Gnucci, the Russian, Recoil, Bushwacker, Sniper, Blackwell, the Elite, Gregario, the Rev, Johnny Nightmare

    Shang-Chi - Zaran, the Cat, Pavane, Kogar, Mordillo, Tiger-Claw, Ghost-Maker, Razor-Fist, Shadow-Stalker, Midnight Sun, Moving Shadow, Cursed Lotus, Zheng Zu

    She-Hulk - Titania, Abominatrix, Adrenazon, Behemoth, Countess, Bulldozer, Grappler, the Word, Ultima, Madcap, Ruby Thursday, Black Hole, Frenzy, Beverly Cross, Nicholas Trask

    Sleepwalker - 8-Ball, the Chain Gang, Spectra, Psyko, Lullaby, the Bookworm, the Office of Insufficient Evidence, the Thought Police, Mr. Jyn, Cobweb

    Spider-Girl - Crazy Eight, Killerwatt, the Dragon King, Funny Face, Soldiers of the Serpent, Quickwire, Hobgoblin, Earthshaker, Mr. Abnormal, Aftershock, Apox, Angel Face, Fury the Goblin Queen, Mr. Nobody, Carolyn Trainer, Killer Frost, Reverb, Black Tarantula

    Spider-Man - Green Goblin, Hobgoblin , Doctor Octopus, Venom, Electro, Mysterio, Sandman, Kraven the Hunter, the Vulture, Carnage, the Lizard, the Rhino, Scorpion, the Shocker, Mr. Negative, Menace, Screwball, Paper Doll, Fracture, Overdrive, Blindside

    Sub-Mariner - Attuma, Tiger Shark, Llyra, Llyron, Orka, Krang, Byrrah, Dr Dorcas, Tyrak, Doctor Doom

    Thor - Loki, Surtur, Ulik, the Enchantress, the Executioner, the Wrecking Crew, the Absorbing Man, Mister Hyde, the Cobra, Radioactive Man, Zarrko, Grey Gargoyle
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    The answer to the original op is Nova unfortunately.

    Richard has outgrown all his original rogues.

    Richard and The Corps, as an intergalactic police force, overall need big grand rogues all to themselves. Using other franchises rogues are fine every now and again like Annihilus, Nebula, Ego, etc.

    But Richard and the Corps need a large Rogues gallery varying from smaller repeat offenders to cosmic big bads that aren’t “borrowed” from other superheroes.

    Even Sam has started a personal gallery of Titus, Warbringer and Kaldera.

    Dark corpsman Gathan Saal as Supernova is okay. But more is needed.

    Diamondhead, Condor, and Corduptor are okay for one-shot Earth tales. But a Nova comic needs some heavy villain spectacle.

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    Iron Man has at least two rogues that we haven’t even seen as big bads in Blacklash and Absynthe. I think his gallery gets a boost due to him having his own film series, with the added boost of still having rogues they could use for future movies if that ever occurs.

    Meanwhile, you have people like War Machine who you have to use rogues like Abyss, a Cable foe, to pad out their gallery.

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    Iron Man is a bit like Rick Sanchez, in that his villains mostly feel beneath him. The story is more about how his emotional damage screws him over than about how dangerous his foes are. It often feels like, if Tony were emotionally healthy, he could mow his villains down like grass. Hell, if Tony were emotionally healthy, he could mow the Marvel Universe down like grass. I mean, the guy invents time machines, genetically engineers the population of entire cities, and resurrects the dead. There's no one who's really a threat to him when he has his **** together, he just almost never has his **** together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Iron Man is a bit like Rick Sanchez, in that his villains mostly feel beneath him. The story is more about how his emotional damage screws him over than about how dangerous his foes are. It often feels like, if Tony were emotionally healthy, he could mow his villains down like grass. Hell, if Tony were emotionally healthy, he could mow the Marvel Universe down like grass. I mean, the guy invents time machines, genetically engineers the population of entire cities, and resurrects the dead. There's no one who's really a threat to him when he has his **** together, he just almost never has his **** together.
    This is a very fascinating take on Tony MichaelC. Thanks for sharing.
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    I say Iron Man’s is just underdeveloped and not utilized in a good way. Some of them, such as The Actor, appear once and die, never to be seen again. Hard to build a rogues gallery with one offs.

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