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    Default Mike Tyson vs Ivan Drago

    Mike Tyson (this world) vs Ivan Drago (Rocky).

    * Boxing match, standard boxing rules.

    * Both fighters in prime.

    * Arena is in Switzerland (neutral ground).

    If this is a stomp/victory for Drago, then Tyson gets a rematch, before which he absorbs all the skills and reflexes of Muhammed Ali (Cassius Clay) while also retaining his own.
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    Drago hits about 8x harder than people who were kind of in Tyson’s league like Frank Bruno according to this. Lifts people by the neck with one arm...he’s way stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud View Post
    Mike Tyson (this world) vs Ivan Drago (Rocky).

    * Boxing match, standard boxing rules.

    * Both fighters in prime.

    * Arena is in Switzerland (neutral ground).

    If this is a stomp/victory for Drago, then Tyson gets a rematch, before which he absorbs all the skills and reflexes of Muhammed Ali (Cassius Clay) while also retaining his own.
    Its not really possible to determine a match between a fictional and a real person. Tyson would win, because Drago, like any character in Rocky 1-8 never get their guard right. They don't fight like boxers, more like super heros

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    Isnt Dragos punches the equivalent of shotguns going off PSIA wise ? Like he should be killing people in a few punches

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    Drago, with his horrible guard, non-existent reflexes and lead-with-his-chin style, might lose this. He might well never cleanly hit a well-coached Tyson, who was a beast defensively in his early years.

    Buuuuuut the amount of force he delivers on those horrible awful swings is enough to beat any real-life boxer if he can connect them.

    Having Ali's skills wouldn't change much for Tyson: he was already quicker and plenty skilled. Having Ali's size, mass and reach, though, would help a LOT, especially against someone Lundgren's size.
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    These are my thoughts -

    If Drago can land several successive hits on Iron Mike (say three) before Mike counters it's over. If Mike can strike first, however, he might very well win due to Ivan's horribly weak guard.
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    If a punch thrown by Rocky IV villain Ivan Drago is supposed to measure 2,150 psi and his glove’s impact area is something like four square inches, he’d be exerting a force of 8,600 pounds, or more than four tons. Based on the professional literature, no boxer in real life comes anywhere close to that. I did find a 2007 news account about World Boxing Organization cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli, whose punches supposedly packed a wallop of around 3.85 tons. However, the researchers making this claim have yet to publish their findings in a scientific journal.
    How does Drago's force of 2150 psi measure up against what we would call a 'Class One.'

    So say there's a character who can lift two thousand pounds. Can we determine from that his psi in punching force?

    Can we determine Drago's approximate strength level? Class Zero-Point-Five or something (whatever seems likely)?

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    Yeah, Drago was a beast. No normal human heavyweight could take that kind of punishment.
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    Drago, because Tyson doesn't hit hard enough for his boxing skill to be a factor. Drago can simply ignore Tyson's punches and go pure offense.

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    For me, the key words in the OP are "standard boxing rules" - which don't actually seem to apply in the Rocky movies.

    Drago makes Tyson look like a saint in comparison, so I'd wager he gets disqualified in round one. Therefore, all Tyson has to do is survive for a maximum of 3 minutes to get a DQ victory.

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    Dargo is 7 inches taller than Tyson, so his ears are relatively safe.

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    Since Ivan Drago is effectively a cartoon character, can we at least spot Mike Tyson the hitting power of his Ip Man incarnation?


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    You need punch out Mike Tyson to win this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    You need punch out Mike Tyson to win this.
    He's probably worse frankly

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Drago, with his horrible guard, non-existent reflexes and lead-with-his-chin style, might lose this. He might well never cleanly hit a well-coached Tyson, who was a beast defensively in his early years.

    Buuuuuut the amount of force he delivers on those horrible awful swings is enough to beat any real-life boxer if he can connect them.

    Having Ali's skills wouldn't change much for Tyson: he was already quicker and plenty skilled. Having Ali's size, mass and reach, though, would help a LOT, especially against someone Lundgren's size.
    Good point that boxers in the Rockyverse don't have actual boxing skills, being played by actors. But they go at each other punching all-out for the whole fight so their durability and damage soak is also far beyond reality. So I don't know that any real life fighter can take Drago down before he finally scores with that superhuman punch.
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