Originally Posted by
Korath
I just realized something : the biggest weakness of the (adult) Titans is the expectation that their fans have and which are largely ingrained into an even larger base, simply because of who they are.
I mean, Outsiders, Doom Patrol, The Terrifics... Nobody expect the members of those teams to be out there, outsmarting and going toe to toe with the worst DC has to offer. Nobody's here expecting Black Lightning to scuffle with Darkseid, or Mr. Terrific with Brainiac, at least not in a recurring way.
While the characters of those teams are great, they aren't considered as a part of the "tier" where such threat are dealt with most often (the Superman, Wonder Woman and Justice League level, in a sense).
But the Titans ? They've got a Flash at least as experienced as Barry; they have bloody Nightwing, who was Batman, and a damn good one at that. They have Donna and Garth, who are really liked by their fans and indeed close to the level of their mentor. Even "lesser" known Titans such as Arsenal and Lilith aren't that weak - if less known indeed. And the NTT have been created to be able to go toe to toe with the Justice League, be it Cyborg (who has been a member for close to ten years now), Starfire or Raven (Beast Boy is in a very awkward place I find, but even he isn't that weak).
For all intent and purpose, fans expects - I expect - them to deal with large threats. I may be in a minority of course, but the idea of putting together Dick, Wally, Donna, Koriand'r, Victor and others, just to have them deal with low level crooks isn't exactly appealing.
But the problem is that the Justice League has cornered the market for those level of danger. Sure, sometimes other characters can be brought in, like in Justice League Dark and Odyssey, but they are never the former sidekicks and rarely the New Teen Titans themselves (even if Odyssey did want to use them, and is currently toying with them in a way which I like but I perfectly understand why others fans of those two characters could be extremely disappointed and angry at the book).
So, yeah. Are we, as readers, actually the liability of the Titans ? Are we what prevent them to be great, because we want them to be GREAT ?