Should Wanda Maximoff (Scarlet Witch stand trial for House of M ?

[Will Evans]

Slap an inhibitor collar on her and problem solved.

Cap would never allow that to happen to his mutant side piece.

[WallStreeter]

What Wanda she has no permanent consequences. Every major character who lost their powers due to her has been repossess. Wanda herself, along with Hope restores mutation to the world with the No More Phoenix spell.

There’s no reason to hate on her anymore.

The D’Bari killed by Dark Phoenix are permanently dead. If Jean van be forgiven so can Wanda. Let’s not forget the times Xavier went crazy as the Entity or Onslaught. Sinister used technology to turn off mutants powers. Look at Magneto and Apocalypse. Restore Wanda as Magneto’s daughter and having an X-gene (Quicksilver too) and put her on the quiet council.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Jean literally killed herself over what she did. Y’all can keep throwing other characters here to deflect but she and Scott were held accountable and paid for their sins. Wanda was vacationing and sipping martinis by the beach

Jean was actively doing bad things more often than Wanda, when Wanda did bad things they were at the spur of the moment and once she learnt what she did shew as unable to take it back. Dark Phoenix had to commit genocide before things moved in place for her to kill herself, and that was done at the last second in the heat of battle.

By Children's Crusade Wanda was amnesiac, had no powers and engaged to Doom for a long period of time and Wolverine tried to kill her, she was also suicidal and has depression. She wanted to use the Life Force to give all the mutants her powers back but was shut down. Out of universe she'd been exiled from print over a long period and her name tarnished to a new generation of writers.

The other characters are comparisons, so when people act the opposite to others under the same circumstances it shows their stances are on shaky grounds. If you're going to have an opinion on something, be consistent - don't base it on how much a character is liked, what species they are or what section in Marvel they belong to. This is how it's possible to tell it's not really about M-Day, that's just an excuse. If she did this as an X-villain she'd be sipping martini's in Krakoa and being on the Quiet Council and the same people would be giving her a thumbs up.

Cyclops didn't kill himself, despite murdering people and conquering the world - all he got was thrown in prison for a while and escaped, became a pariah on the run for a while then everything was forgiven. The Cyclops that we know today isn't impacting one iota by what he did in the PF.

And this isn't solely about the characters in the comics reactions, it's readers. Many of which have more extreme reactions than Magneto!

[Bunch of Coconuts]

Slap an inhibitor collar on her and problem solved.

Doubtful that a mere inhibitor collar would work on a sorcery trained, cosmic power possessed person...but hey...not everybody thinks things through

[CoCoBandz]

Doubtful that a mere inhibitor collar would work on a sorcery trained, cosmic power possessed person...but hey...not everybody thinks things through

Your doubt is noted, but ultimately deemed inconsequential.

The almighty inhibitor collar doesn't give a damn about titles. It has one job and it's good at it. Maybe if Wanda didn't suck at using her powers it might be different.

Cap would never allow that to happen to his mutant side piece.

Flatscan Cap can get worked too.

[Bunch of Coconuts]

Your doubt is noted, but ultimately deemed inconsequential.

The almighty inhibitor collar doesn't give a damn about titles. It has one job and it's good at it. Maybe if Wanda didn't suck at using her powers it might be different.

Do you have evidence of an inhibitor collar working on a cosmic power infused being, or on someone working with sorcery?

[People Of The Earth]

Why the people who always say Wanda was unstable and guilty of nothing are the same people who accuse Scott of being in full control of the Phoenix in Avengers vs. X-Men.

Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force whenever he wanted to Hope once possessed, but refused to out of arrogance.
Wanda never had the chance to do anything once possessed by the Life Force.
Cyclops knew the danger of the PF long before AvX, yet was willing to use that power to fullfill his agenda.
Wanda had no clue of the danger of the LF as stated in CC, had she known the LF would cause the destruction of the Avengers and M-Day, would she have sought it? No, she wouldn't have.

Ergo, why Cyclops is getting more flack than her.

[Veitha]

Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force whenever he wanted to Hope once possessed, but refused to out of arrogance.
Wanda never had the chance to do anything once possessed by the Life Force.
Cyclops knew the danger of the PF long before AvX, yet was willing to use that power to fullfill his agenda.
Wanda had no clue of the danger of the LF as stated in CC, had she known the LF would cause the destruction of the Avengers and M-Day, would she have sought it? No, she wouldn't have.

Ergo, why Cyclops is getting more flack than her.

How? Did he have a magic button that we didn't know of?

Stark put the Force inside the P5. Wanda looked for dark magic for fixing her needs and she got genocide out of the deal.

[Will Evans]

What Wanda she has no permanent consequences. Every major character who lost their powers due to her has been repossess. Wanda herself, along with Hope restores mutation to the world with the No More Phoenix spell.

There’s no reason to hate on her anymore.

The D’Bari killed by Dark Phoenix are permanently dead. If Jean van be forgiven so can Wanda. Let’s not forget the times Xavier went crazy as the Entity or Onslaught. Sinister used technology to turn off mutants powers. Look at Magneto and Apocalypse. Restore Wanda as Magneto’s daughter and having an X-gene (Quicksilver too) and put her on the quiet council.

Stop focusing on major characters. Wanda’s actions caused the death of multiple minor characters.
Just for instance: Magma’s boyfriend died because he lost his powers. Mutants kids necks snapped because she lost the mutatation to keep it up. Another young mutant died because they were in. Mid-flight when they lost their powers. And hundreds of other cases like that. Just because it didn’t happen to a major character doesn’t get Wanda off the hook for causing the deaths of innocent people.

[Veitha]

The spell also didn't restore mutants. She had lost the Life Force so no way she could revert the spell to that scale, too.

And why would they put her on the Council when not even Polaris is on it lol.

[Havok83]

Jean was actively doing bad things more often than Wanda, when Wanda did bad things they were at the spur of the moment and once she learnt what she did shew as unable to take it back. Dark Phoenix had to commit genocide before things moved in place for her to kill herself, and that was done at the last second in the heat of battle.

By Children's Crusade Wanda was amnesiac, had no powers and engaged to Doom for a long period of time and Wolverine tried to kill her, she was also suicidal and has depression. She wanted to use the Life Force to give all the mutants her powers back but was shut down. Out of universe she'd been exiled from print over a long period and her name tarnished to a new generation of writers.

The other characters are comparisons, so when people act the opposite to others under the same circumstances it shows their stances are on shaky grounds. If you're going to have an opinion on something, be consistent - don't base it on how much a character is liked, what species they are or what section in Marvel they belong to. This is how it's possible to tell it's not really about M-Day, that's just an excuse. If she did this as an X-villain she'd be sipping martini's in Krakoa and being on the Quiet Council and the same people would be giving her a thumbs up.

Cyclops didn't kill himself, despite murdering people and conquering the world - all he got was thrown in prison for a while and escaped, became a pariah on the run for a while then everything was forgiven. The Cyclops that we know today isn't impacting one iota by what he did in the PF.

And this isn't solely about the characters in the comics reactions, it's readers. Many of which have more extreme reactions than Magneto!

Was she? Dark Phoenix lasted for about 1 day in Marvel time. She only did two horrible things as DP. She fought her friends but she did not kill them and then there was the D'Bari genocide. Wanda's reign of terror lasted across two stories. She fought and murdered her friends in Disassembled and then there was the mutant deciMation at the end of HoM. Jean fighting her friends was not worthy of death or punishment. Things escalated with the D'Bari genocide as she was immediately held accountable. That final battle that you mention was a trial by combat. In story Jean was held accountable and she faced the consequences of her actions. She chose to end it with her life.

No Cyclops didnt kill himself, but he was arrested. He was held accountable. There was supposed to be a trial and the main reason he fled prison was bc the warden was corrupt and he was nearly killed. There was never actually going to be a trial bc he wasnt supposed to make it out alive

After destroying the mansion and killing several of them, the Avengers just let Wanda leave with Magneto instead of having her arrested on the spot for her crimes. She was not held accountable then. After the deciMation, she was scott free. Hawkeye found her and protected her. When the Avengers found her in CC, they protected her. Marvel really should have killed her off in the deciMation era

Um...Latveria is land-locked, my friend.

Doom has his own island. Im sure his fiancee had access to it. Thats really besides the point though

Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force whenever he wanted to Hope once possessed, but refused to out of arrogance.
Wanda never had the chance to do anything once possessed by the Life Force.
Cyclops knew the danger of the PF long before AvX, yet was willing to use that power to fullfill his agenda.
Wanda had no clue of the danger of the LF as stated in CC, had she known the LF would cause the destruction of the Avengers and M-Day, would she have sought it? No, she wouldn't have.

Ergo, why Cyclops is getting more flack than her.

What danger? You must be buying into the rhetoric told by AvX. Prior to that the PF was a force of good that has done good by the mutants. Just a few years prior Jean had it, and she was fine. Rachel had it and she was fine. The only bad experience Scott saw was the DP but that was bc Jean was targeted, manipulated and driven crazy. That wasnt likely to happen with Hope considering they were training her and not messing with her mind. His agenda? The only agenda he had was to clean up the SW's mess.

[People Of The Earth]

How? Did he have a magic button that we didn't know of?

You're missing the point.
He denied Hope the PF because he deemed her unworthy of it, not because he was unable to give it to her.
The "How" is pointless.

Stark put the Force inside the P5. Wanda looked for dark magic for fixing her needs and she got genocide out of the deal.

Ah really? Then I'm sure you can point out in what book it was shown she knew the Life Force would 1/ possess her 2/ destroy the Avengers in the process 3/ depower mutants.

Please provide those panels regarding Wanda, because for the PF, it was pretty well documented, Cyclops himself being front and center of the PF displays. Surely you can do the same here with such a strong statement.

[Veitha]

You're missing the point.
He denied Hope the PF because he deemed her unworthy of it, not because he was unable to give it to her.
The "How" is pointless.



Please provide those panels regarding Wanda, because for the PF, it was pretty well documented, Cyclops himself being front and center of the PF displays. Surely you can do the same here with such a strong statement.

What? Where (and how) did you get that?

Ah really? Then I'm sure you can point out in what book it was shown she knew the Life Force would 1/ possess her 2/ destroy the Avengers in the process 3/ depower mutants.

It was shown that she went to Doom because she wanted to do forbidden magic that Strange and Arkness wouldn't allow her to use. Forbidden magic + Doctor Doom how well can that go? She was incompetent and naive and worked with a villain and it resulted in catastrophe and killings.

[People Of The Earth]

What danger? You must be buying into the rhetoric told by AvX.

AvX is not a "what if" story, it's canon to the 616 continuity, you can dismiss its content all you want, it still happened and count as a result.
Unless it was retconned out of continuity somewhere down the line, in which case I would be curious to know in what serie it occured.

Prior to that the PF was a force of good that has done good by the mutants.

And then the PF killed billions on its mad dash towards Earth in that AvX story.
Crazy how comics work.

Just a few years prior Jean had it, and she was fine. Rachel had it and she was fine. The only bad experience Scott saw was the DP but that was bc Jean was targeted, manipulated and driven crazy.

There were plenty of other instances where people harnessing the PF lost control and you know it.

That wasnt likely to happen with Hope considering they were training her and not messing with her mind.

That's the poorest of excuses given the behaviour the PF had while traveling to Earth (i.e. destroying inhabited worlds), and given Cyclops was relaying on faith, not facts, to risk the Survival of the Earth and its inhabitants.

His agenda? The only agenda he had was to clean up the SW's mess.

Which he never even pretended to try doing while having this power. He did all but that one thing he was supposed to do.

[People Of The Earth]

What? Where (and how) did you get that?

In whatever is the AvX issue where he talks down to Hope about her being undeserving of that power.

It was shown that she went to Doom because she wanted to do forbidden magic that Strange and Arkness wouldn't allow her to use. Forbidden magic + Doctor Doom how well can that go?

All you are doing here is making conjectures and assumptions.
"Wanda looked for dark magic for fixing her needs and she got genocide out of the deal."
Those were your words, not mine? so tell me in what book Wanda went "yes, I know it will cause a genocide but I still want that power".
Shouldn't be hard for you given your confident statement.

She was incompetent and naive and worked with a villain and it resulted in catastrophe and killings.

Ah the irony of you using those words here, yet playing coy with the leadership situation on Krakoa, but I digress…

She wasn't in the driver' seat during the Avengers Disassembled/ HoM debacle, blaming her for her naiveté and incompetence is the most that can be done here, especially in a court room, and even those are debatable.
Isn't Kitty Pryde selling out to Doom in FFvsXMen? Look who's talking.