Should Wanda Maximoff (Scarlet Witch stand trial for House of M ?

[Zelena]

I honestly thought this was a necro'd thread. Could've sworn there was one on this subject before.

There was this thread if Cyclops should stand trial for Xavier's murder…

[xiyon]

Gotta hand it to Hickman. Dude knows which buttons to press to provoke discussion in the x-line, no matter how old it is.

[Steel Inquisitor]

There was this thread if Cyclops should stand trial for Xavier's murder…

That would be great. Does anyone know he refused Wanda when she asked him to restore the mutants when she had the chance, I don't think they'd be happy about that revelation. What about the incident where Rogue murdered Wanda? Killing humans is against the law in Krakatoa.

[Zelena]

That would be great. Does anyone know he refused Wanda when she asked him to restore the mutants when she had the chance, I don't think they'd be happy about that revelation. What about the incident where Rogue murdered Wanda? Killing humans is against the law in Krakatoa.

Usually, laws don't have retroactive effects, though…
Krakatoa… Krakatoa… are you Indonesian, by the way?

[Steel Inquisitor]

Usually, laws don't have retroactive effects, though…
Krakatoa… Krakatoa… are you Indonesian, by the way?

True, but this is comics.

Nope, American.

[Nullviahomo]

This again? (rolls eyes)

She can't be put on trial by Krakoa because she hasn't committed any crime under Krakoan law. The Eichmann parallel doesn't work either because the Nazi Hunters were going after people who had been found guilty in absentia of a whole laundry list of crimes against humanity. What law did Wanda break when she said "No More Mutants?".

Like it or not (and I don't for soooooo many reasons) the writers of Disassembled, House of M and Children's Crusade gave her a clear Out where responsibility was concerned. She was 'somehow, for some Bendisian reason' not in her right mind when she merged with the Life Force and couldn't control her subsequent actions any more than any of the Phoenix Five could. It's stated repeatedly right there in the text. Unfortunately AvX happened, refu#%ing that chicken with all the nonsense about Wanda being the antithesis of the Phoenix Force (huh?) and asking X-fans to swallow the whole "See? She saved the day and restored mutantkind so The Avengers were Right!" BS. Then Remender took a great big dump on just about everything 'good' that was supposed to roll out after AvX, most effectively by turning Wanda into a self-regarding and entirely dismissive bitch who was somehow 'right' in her attitude to those whiny old mutants. But hey, if once being a bitch is going to be a retroactive criminal offense on Krakoa then she's hardly the first in line for sentencing (insert glyph of Beast at virtually any point during the Utopia and Schism Eras).

Point is, Hickman is clearly working up to some kind of resolution to the Scarlet Witch Problem that might well involve someone from Krakoa getting radicalised into attacking her directly, but I don't see him making it a black and white issue. More likely we'll get some kind of out of the blue stunner to retcon the whole issue like Wanda being dragged in chains through a Portal, everyone wondering how the hell The Pretender was able to pass through if she's not a mutant, the Avengers appearing overhead in Quinjets and a big brawl on the beach only averted by Phantazia (the only person other than Layla Miller to see right through the House of M reality-warp) wandering out between the two factions, pointing at Wanda and saying "She didn't do it."

[tuck frump]

She can't be put on trial by Krakoa because she hasn't committed any crime under Krakoan law. The Eichmann parallel doesn't work either because the Nazi Hunters were going after people who had been found guilty in absentia of a whole laundry list of crimes against humanity. What law did Wanda break when she said "No More Mutants?".

"Make more mutants" very obviously.

[Steel Inquisitor]

"Make more mutants" very obviously.

What criminal act does that fall under?

[Agent Z]

I dont understand how someone is so weak minded they get convinced to the idea to conjur babies with a robot and then ask doom for help, but you know difrent strokes

And yet everything the Krakoans are doing is defended.

[king of hybrids]

Even if you put her on trial, Krakoa has no way to hold her. Exiling her to the deeps would be like putting a nuke under Krakoa (one that will only get stronger as A) she goes mad and B) that hate and fear of her translates to power), if Wanda shredding reality to kill Agatha didn’t kill her ghost then neither Magik or Nur will be able to make corporeal death stick

[Steel Inquisitor]

Even if you put her on trial, Krakoa has no way to hold her. Exiling her to the deeps would be like putting a nuke under Krakoa (one that will only get stronger as A) she goes mad and B) that hate and fear of her translates to power), if Wanda shredding reality to kill Agatha didn’t kill her ghost then neither Magik or Nur will be able to make corporeal death stick

Make her Magik's room mate/ward, they can work together to protect Krakatoa.

[tuck frump]

What criminal act does that fall under?

I cant hold ur hand hand through every logical conclusions sorry u have to figure it for yourself.

Even if you put her on trial, Krakoa has no way to hold her. Exiling her to the deeps would be like putting a nuke under Krakoa (one that will only get stronger as A) she goes mad and B) that hate and fear of her translates to power), if Wanda shredding reality to kill Agatha didn’t kill her ghost then neither Magik or Nur will be able to make corporeal death stick

AH'LL HANDLE IT SHUGAH

[Cruelrain]

If she's not a mutant Krakoa has no right to persecute her

If she's a mutant Krakoa's memo is to pardon all mutants for their previous crimes

The queen will be free either way.

This and if they try something strange the Avengers will bomb them period

[ExodusCloak]

This and if they try something strange the Avengers will bomb them period

The Avengers will bomb them? The Avengers a metaphor for US imperialism, white supremacy and militarism? I guess that fits.

[Steel Inquisitor]

I cant hold ur hand hand through every logical conclusions sorry u have to figure it for yourself.

If you're going to condemn a character for a crime surely you shouldn't have a problem writing it here.

AH'LL HANDLE IT SHUGAH

It didn't stick and did you miss what was said? Making her a Dark Phoenix murder ghost means they won't like round two. Either solution ends with them losing.

The Avengers will bomb them? The Avengers a metaphor for US imperialism, white supremacy and militarism? I guess that fits.

It's risking war, I don't think Krakatoa would take kindly to the Avengers doing that to a high profile member of their government and they have numerous people worthy of this at the highest levels. X-Force is currently killing human and covering it up, on Beast's orders. They'll won't be bombing people but they don't have to, they have Omega level mutants who can destroy the world.