Should Wanda Maximoff (Scarlet Witch stand trial for House of M ?

[Alan2099]

Though House of M happened 15 years ago many mutants lost their birthgiven powers and were made human due to this event.

Interesting that you put it this way.

How many mutants actually had their powers since birth? It seems most cases, mutants would gain their powers in their teens, giving them anywhere from 12 to 19 years of being "human."

Then they get powers and all of a sudden they aren't human anymore? Suddenly being human is a bad thing? They don't consider themselves humans (who just happen to have powers) anymore?

There's just something wrong about that way of thinking to me, but it seems to be one that's been embraced by the X-men in recent years.

[Electricmastro]

Interesting that you put it this way.

How many mutants actually had their powers since birth? It seems most cases, mutants would gain their powers in their teens, giving them anywhere from 12 to 19 years of being "human."

Then they get powers and all of a sudden they aren't human anymore? Suddenly being human is a bad thing? They don't consider themselves humans (who just happen to have powers) anymore?

There's just something wrong about that way of thinking to me, but it seems to be one that's been embraced by the X-men in recent years.

Yep, probably complicating it more is mutants like Wolverine referring to himself as human too.

[BroHomo]

Honestly, by this logic and considering the “apocalyptic torture porn” the writers have put the mutants through in these last 30 years, you might as well put the whole planet Earth on trial.

Why?

Also, is it just me, or are you speaking as if Wanda committed genocide against all the mutants simply by not making them mutant anymore?

I'd say its pretty likely considering thats. Exactly. What. Happened. lol

Interesting that you put it this way.

How many mutants actually had their powers since birth? It seems most cases, mutants would gain their powers in their teens, giving them anywhere from 12 to 19 years of being "human."

Not a lot DISPLAY or MANIFEST their powers at birth.....but the gene is there waiting to emerge Since. Birth.

Then they get powers and all of a sudden they aren't human anymore? Suddenly being human is a bad thing? They don't consider themselves humans (who just happen to have powers) anymore?

More like theres no reason to defend your humaness to a world that treats you and tells you and the people like you are not. Being proud and visible of the thing that sets you apart from the majority used to be a valued trait in society, It definitely beats Being the type of human that considers a whoooole already discriminated against minority population's decimation and assimilation into the majority is no big whoop :/

There's just something wrong about that way of thinking to me, but it seems to be one that's been embraced by the X-men in recent years.

To no longer be content to sit at on the feet of the humans gorging themselves on the Earths resources....all the while waiting just to be acknowledged as a dam person? Hmmm

[Zelena]

Yep, probably complicating it more is mutants like Wolverine referring to himself as human too.

Things have changed a lot during years. I never consider the mutants as something else than humans since the moment I started to read X-men books.
'Special humans', 'uncanny humans'… but humans.
There has been a political shift in these books: instead of showing what unite people, they prefer showing the difference that labels a group.
In the same time, they hold back the fact that all mutants are very different from each other. This 'mutant unity' feels very artificial to me.

[Alan2099]

Not a lot DISPLAY or MANIFEST their powers at birth.....but the gene is there waiting to emerge Since. Birth.

And that doesn't matter a lick to these people growing up because they don't know about it.

More like theres no reason to defend your humaness to a world that treats you and tells you and the people like you are not. Being proud and visible of the thing that sets you apart from the majority used to be a valued trait in society, It definitely beats Being the type of human that considers a whoooole already discriminated against minority population's decimation and assimilation into the majority is no big whoop :/

To no longer be content to sit at on the feet of the humans gorging themselves on the Earths resources....all the while waiting just to be acknowledged as a dam person? Hmmm

You say that like every human being on the planet is a piece of scum and every mutant is a good person. Sad thing is, that seems to be how the X-men are acting these days as well.

[BroHomo]

And that doesn't matter a lick to these people growing up because they don't know about it.

Annnd? does somehow negate the fact they were mutants since birth?

You say that like every human being on the planet is a piece of scum and every mutant is a good person. Sad thing is, that seems to be how the X-men are acting these days as well.

Well that wasn't my intention, are you sure youre just not adding your own personal defensive bias?

[Veitha]

I'm pretty sure that people in the MU know how the X-Gene works and that you're a mutant since birth. There's been too many campaigns against mutants not to know. There were vaccinations going on to repress the X-Gene in kids.

[People Of The Earth]

I'm pretty sure that people in the MU know how the X-Gene works and that you're a mutant since birth. There's been too many campaigns against mutants not to know. There were vaccinations going on to repress the X-Gene in kids.

It doesn't matter because before their powers manifest for the first time, the vast majority of those mutants are raised and live as any other sapien kid would.

[Zelena]

It doesn't matter because before their powers manifest for the first time, the vast majority of those mutants are raised and live as any other sapien kid would.

If the mutants are detect at birth, the parents would be wary, worried about their children and it would affect their development.

That would mean that being a mutant is considered as a disease… it wouldn't happen in all countries, I think.

[ComeOnBunny]

Given the last time they saw each other Polaris made it abundantly clear where she stands with her sister and given how she has acted in this life I very much doubt any attempts at reconciliation on Lorna's part are going to happen even if Wanda does her best to reconcile, as someone pointed out, Lorna will not let go... which tbh feels a bit hypocritical given that she went crazy once, was possessed and has hurt X-men too though many will argue the scale is not the same but the point should still be considereded should it not?

Nah, Lorna no longer has a reason to give Wanda the time of day now that she is no longer her sister.

Also no need for a trial just have a Mutant still butt hurt about M-Day kill her on sight than get punished by the Krakoa council for breaking the rules by killing a human.

[Rev9]

You know what really gets me curious is ,would she stand trial if she turned the entire world into mutants?

[Lucyinthesky]

She kind of did that for HoM were the majority of people on earth were mutants and most super heros(Avengers and X-men) were calling for her head and the heads of her family.

If she did that again she would not be different from Namor who also turned a city of humans into atlanteans and he was condemned by Iron Man and Captain America so I guess she would also be persecuted by the Avengers again.

But well this is a moot point because she no longer has that kind of power and given her own issues with being mutant I don´t think she ever would do something like that again

[Journey]

You know what really gets me curious is ,would she stand trial if she turned the entire world into mutants?

If the body count matches I'd assume so.

[Rev9]

If the body count matches I'd assume so.

If the body count matches I'd assume so.

Somehow I doubt that, because on this cycle mutants wouldn't really care if humans died due to mutation,it would be 'survival of the fittest' those who died would be unfit for pan-Krakoa...Though it would be an interesting story to explore,bitter mutants on Krakoa demanding Wanda is extradited to Krakoa,Exodus for example going as far as acting indipendently sending out his Acolyte assasins in the spirit of Simon Wiesenthal post WW2 nazi hunting.Since Krakoa is echoing nascent Israel in almost every way..Then we can see how the Quiet Council voted on these actions,how Exodus is countermanded on Wanda's hunting(sowing the seeds of his break away from the council)Magnus' dilemma.There's a big story potential there

[Alan2099]

If the mutants are detect at birth, the parents would be wary, worried about their children and it would affect their development.

That would mean that being a mutant is considered as a disease… it wouldn't happen in all countries, I think.

Reminds me of the What if where Exodus and a bunch of the Acolytes killed a newborn baby because tests were shown that it was going to evolve into something beyond mutant.