View Poll Results: Should Wanda Maimoff stand trial fot her role in House of M ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    the book literaly ends before he can do anything villainous, he was a villain in "name" only then since his brotherhood only shows up in a final page, it literaly went nowhere besides some future flashbacks, he did nothing villainous lol, once again with the nonsensical strawman that has no conection or logic to the issue being discussed.
    and condescending comments telling me to read a second hand justice league, thanks but no thanks.
    Did you read the comics in question? The 05 go to the future and get into a fight with the Brotherhood there and come to blows with magneto himself when he arrives. Off screen this Brotherhood committed a horrible act (they stand in the middle of the city block they destroyed) the X-men are disgusted with with a large death toll and they worship Magneto like a cult leader. The Brotherhood in the future show up for more than one page, the two groups fight and argue. Calling every example I use a straw man isn't as compelling as you think, it tells me you have no argument to dispute the evidence.

    If you want to actually understand who Wanda is, this isn't a bad request to consider, but we both know how you feel about her isn't about facts.

    Edit: Had Magneto stopped being a super villain after the 90's even with all the acts he committed by then he'd still remain a huge super-villain in their roster. His legacy continues to get people killed when he goes into hiding with his followers. And he did all this without remorse, unlike Wanda. But somehow he's the hero and she's the villain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    Did you read the comics in question? The 05 go to the future and get into a fight with the Brotherhood there and come to blows with magneto himself when he arrives. Off screen this Brotherhood committed a horrible act (they stand in the middle of the city block they destroyed) the X-men are disgusted with with a large death toll and they worship Magneto like a cult leader. The Brotherhood in the future show up for more than one page, the two groups fight and argue. Calling every example I use a straw man isn't as compelling as you think, it tells me you have no argument to dispute the evidence.

    If you want to actually understand who Wanda is, this isn't a bad request to consider, but we both know how you feel about her isn't about facts.
    yeah the FUTURE one that doesnt come to pass, magneto himself does nothing besides set up a new brotherhood after the mothervine fiasco and the 05 leaving, destroying one building, he immediatly is shown in mystery in mandripoor as a neutral figure keeping to himself.
    your arguments RARELY make any sense
    Last edited by Ferro; 05-17-2020 at 05:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    yeah the FUTURE one that doesnt come to pass, magneto himself does nothing besides set up a new brotherhood after the mothervine fiasco and the 05 leaving, he immediatly is shown in mystery in mandripoor as a neutral figure keeping to himself
    Because he learnt from 05 Jean that going on to to that task was wrong, that was the moral of that story. He's not a hero, he just didn't do a terrorist act once in his life. Thats why it didn't come to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    Because he learnt from 05 Jean that going on to to that task was wrong, that was the moral of that story. He's not a hero, he just didn't do a terrorist act once in his life. Thats why it didn't come to pass.
    No no no non ono you said had been a villain since 2018, wich is wrong in all ways considering you even posted an article as if it proved anything the last issues of the book didnt counter already AND by other titles that followedd immediatly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I did a slight edit.

    Are you asking for an Excel tabel with all of their appearances?
    Sure. That’d probably be the most objective way of doing things.

    Don’t forget spin-off series, one-shots, minis, and guest appearances.
    Last edited by Bunch of Coconuts; 05-17-2020 at 05:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    No no no non ono you said had been a villain since 2018, wich is wrong in all ways considering you even posted an article as if it proved anything the last issues of the book didnt counter already.
    He was a villain in that story. Magneto forms a terrorist group does terrorist things and this comes to haunt him when he gets to the future. The fact he didn't end up doing it didn't not make him a villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    He was a villain in that story. Magneto forms a terrorist group does terrorist things and this comes to haunt him when he gets to the future. The fact he didn't end up doing it didn't not make him a villain.
    in 3 issues before uncanny and others immediatly reverted that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    He was a villain in that story. Magneto forms a terrorist group does terrorist things and this comes to haunt him when he gets to the future. The fact he didn't end up doing it didn't not make him a villain.
    We minority report now?
    The Krakoans are EEEvil!

    THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    We minority report now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Sure. That’d probably be the most objective way of doing things.

    Don’t forget spin-off series, one-shots, minis, and guest appearances.
    Ok, lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    We minority report now?
    They're time travel stories, that's how that goes. For example, the fact the X-men stopped Days of Future Past occurring didn't stop the villains in that story from being villains. But that's not really what this is about, it's a distraction to make sure Magneto's the hero what he actually does in the comics as a super-villain can't be acknowledged. First it was that what he did was right, now it's he did nothing because that time line was stopped. I don't think you'd be this forgiving had we been talking about Scarlet Witch in a story like this.

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    Well guys, can we all agree that if The Wasp hadn't been drinking too many Margaritas with Wanda we wouldn't be here and call it a day? Let's take Janet, and have her under trial for being a loudmouth and dressing up poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    Well guys, can we all agree that if The Wasp hadn't been drinking too many Margaritas with Wanda we wouldn't be here and call it a day? Let's take Janet, and have her under trial for being a loudmouth and dressing up poorly.
    See I like her she has a cute costume so i can forgive an forget and quite honestly id do the same for the drama, but like, at a distance so not to get caught in the cross fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Don’t hardcore Storm fans basically complain about her just being a support character nowadays?
    i heard they make petitions so Marvel can write her properly or make her a leader or whatever

    This was wrost when Jean was choosen as a leader during X-Men Red as she should

    But honestly if you're going to shade a character for their solo comic sales at least make sure your fav can get solos comics in the first place (cause there's no demand for her as well) and good sales cause Storm is not one of them...

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