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    Default Should Wanda Maximoff (Scarlet Witch) stand trial for House of M ?.

    Should Scarlet Witch stand trial for her House of M actions ?
    Though House of M happened 15 years ago many mutants lost their birthgiven powers and were made human due to this event.
    Now that Krakoa is recognised as a nation is it time for mutants to pass judgement on one of the most tragic events in mutant history.
    How will the quiet Council of Krakoa judge Wandas actions during House of M ?.
    It will be interesting Magnetos' stance towards Wanda now that she isn't his daughter due to the Uncanny Avengers Vol 2 Retcon.
    Will the retcon stay or will they return Wanda and Pietro to being mutants.
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    No, it's way too late for any of that. Any trial, villain arc or redemption should have happened when she returned after Children's Crusade. Anything now is too long after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    No, it's way too late for any of that. Any trial, villain arc or redemption should have happened when she returned after Children's Crusade. Anything now is too long after the fact.
    Krakoa has just become a Nation, a Nation of Mutants, alot of mutants had their powers taken away some still don't have their powers, powers that were their birth right.
    At the time Wanda was regarded as an mutant and as this is a crime against mutants she should be trialled and judged under Krakoan law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixThanos View Post
    Krakoa has just become a Nation, a Nation of Mutants, alot of mutants had their powers taken away some still don't have their powers, powers that were their birth right.
    At the time Wanda was regarded at an mutant and as this is a crime against mutants she should be trialled and judged.
    And just because Krakoa is a thing doesn't change anything. This was already gone over in AvX. Marvel decided not to go through with it. They instead put her on UA. Krakoa (like other mutant utopias) won't even stick around. The time to try Wanda was ten years ago out of story and sometime ago before a lot of other events in comics. Them leaving her alone after AvX to only do this again, would be just repetitive.
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    Apocalypse, Sinister, Jean...etc. All have committed crimes against mutantdom. Under their laws they have been absolved. If she is/was considered a mutant then they wouldn't put her under trial and if she isn't they don't have a right to put her under trial at all. So...she's water and they're a bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibara View Post
    Apocalypse, Sinister, Jean...etc. All have committed crimes against mutantdom. Under their laws they have been absolved. If she is/was considered a mutant then they wouldn't put her under trial and if she isn't they don't have a right to put her under trial at all. So...she's water and they're a bridge.
    It's Krakatoa so them being hypocrites about her wouldn't be out of character. Didn't Xavier himself nickname her "the Pretender" after M-Day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathrinBrown View Post
    Wanda Maximoff's Scarlet Witch series is said to be set in the '50s, and will feature Paul Bettany returning as Vision. Avengers: Endgame did help that confusing premise make sense somewhat, although it also made the story a bit more confusing as well with the events that played out.
    It's not set in the 50s. It has some time travel stuff, but that's not known if it's an illusion or not. It has different time frames through the decades.
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    Due to the recent events in Empyre X-Men the mutants will be after Wandas head more than ever.
    I'd love to see Apocalypse getting Mister Sinister to send the Hellions to abduct Wanda, to stand trial for her actions against mutant kind.
    Magneto will blow up but as Wanda is already in custody on Krakoa he is overuled in a very close vote by the Quiet Council, the casting vote being Charles Xaviers.
    Just when it looks like Wanda will be doomed to meet the same fate as Sabretooth being imprisoned within Krakoa itself, Mystique secretly contacts Quicksilver who then contacts the Avengers and others close to Wanda.
    The current Avengers line up of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, She Hulk, Ghost Rider along with Quicksilver, Vision, Doctor Voodoo, Wonder Man and Hawkeye gather.
    Let the games begin
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    Wanda should be back on the Avengers roster where she belongs. Then if they want to do an X-Men crossover, knock themselves out. But as things currently stand in the comics, Doom was responsible for M-Day (an explanation that has holes but not as many holes as Wanda being responsible) and most of the X-Men have indicated by word or deed that they have no interest in treating her as an enemy.

    So I guess the answer is "yes if it's a story about Wanda" and "no if it's a story about M-day, which nobody cares about any more."

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    In last weeks X-Men# 7 House of M and the Scarlet Witch were mentioned like an historic/horrific event, a mutant Melody, who had lost her powers during House of M had to to get them back by taking part in the Crucible.
    Would mutant children also have to go take part in the Crucible to get their powers back ?.
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    Wanda never lost her powers. Her powers are linked to Chthon. Her mutant abilities were just energy wielding. She lost the life force in Children's Crusade, so she can't repower them. Mutants are working on their own way to repower themselves though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixThanos View Post
    In last weeks X-Men# 7 House of M and the Scarlet Witch were mentioned like an historic/horrific event, a mutant who had lost her powers during House of M had to to get them back.
    Would mutant children also have to go through the same process to get their powers back ?.
    I don't know what that has to do with Wanda, until/unless she actually comes into the story and gets a chance to speak up for herself.

    Otherwise it's just a story about mutant villains using a biased story, pretending that a hero is actually a villain, as a tool to scare children and unite them around a common enemy. It's not a bad story but it has nothing to do with Wanda as a character, since the character they're describing is not the one from the actual comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    Wanda should be back on the Avengers roster where she belongs. Then if they want to do an X-Men crossover, knock themselves out. But as things currently stand in the comics, Doom was responsible for M-Day (an explanation that has holes but not as many holes as Wanda being responsible) and most of the X-Men have indicated by word or deed that they have no interest in treating her as an enemy.

    So I guess the answer is "yes if it's a story about Wanda" and "no if it's a story about M-day, which nobody cares about any more."
    I too, look at the circumstances of Children’s Crusade and how it all evolved. Let’s look at the whole thread of House of M happening:

    It started when Wanda had children in an Avengers story and Wanda was mindwiped that she had these kids by none other than Agatha Harkness, to forget. That’s issue 1

    One day, in Avengers Disassembled, Janet van Dyke happened to remind Wanda she thought she had two kids. Wanda went and asked Agatha about this, and when Agatha said she thought Wanda was over this obsession with kids, Wanda turned Agatha into a dried up husk of a corpse. That’s issue 2.

    So Wanda, wishing to increase her Chaos powers, (either to get her kids back, or, to unleash holy retribution against all super heroes), asked for Dooms help to boost her powers, to which Doom agreed, and, not knowing what Wanda had to do for Doom in trade, Wanda became a reality worper. That’s issue 3.

    Then Wanda proceeded to unleash her anger on everybody, Doom included, because she was obsessed with revenge, and caused Doom to attack the FF, Reed Richards obsessively to take over Latvaria, Thor to be ravaged by Ragnarok, Fury to assassinate the Latverian PM, Avengers Disassembled, and in full mania, House of M. That’s issue 4.

    Now, I’m not too sure if the Avengers were at fault for causing Wanda to forget her children, or, Wanda, for reaching out to Doom, but I think it’s ambiguous enough that we recognise the Super Heroes were all conspiritually at fault, not just Wanda. I think there are enough factors to mitigate Wanda not being alone in House of M.

    That’s if I were a lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibara View Post
    Apocalypse, Sinister, Jean...etc. All have committed crimes against mutantdom. Under their laws they have been absolved. If she is/was considered a mutant then they wouldn't put her under trial and if she isn't they don't have a right to put her under trial at all. So...she's water and they're a bridge.
    lol of course...when bringing up crimes Wanda did, in a thread about her...lets strawman the arguement to talk about an off topic char

    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    I too, look at the circumstances of Children’s Crusade and how it all evolved. Let’s look at the whole thread of House of M happening:

    It started when Wanda had children
    Errr she never had kids
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    I too, look at the circumstances of Children’s Crusade and how it all evolved. Let’s look at the whole thread of House of M happening:

    It started when Wanda had children in an Avengers story and Wanda was mindwiped that she had these kids by none other than Agatha Harkness, to forget. That’s issue 1

    One day, in Avengers Disassembled, Janet van Dyke happened to remind Wanda she thought she had two kids. Wanda went and asked Agatha about this, and when Agatha said she thought Wanda was over this obsession with kids, Wanda turned Agatha into a dried up husk of a corpse. That’s issue 2.

    So Wanda, wishing to increase her Chaos powers, (either to get her kids back, or, to unleash holy retribution against all super heroes), asked for Dooms help to boost her powers, to which Doom agreed, and, not knowing what Wanda had to do for Doom in trade, Wanda became a reality worper. That’s issue 3.

    Then Wanda proceeded to unleash her anger on everybody, Doom included, because she was obsessed with revenge, and caused Doom to attack the FF, Reed Richards obsessively to take over Latvaria, Thor to be ravaged by Ragnarok, Fury to assassinate the Latverian PM, Avengers Disassembled, and in full mania, House of M. That’s issue 4.

    Now, I’m not too sure if the Avengers were at fault for causing Wanda to forget her children, or, Wanda, for reaching out to Doom, but I think it’s ambiguous enough that we recognise the Super Heroes were all conspiritually at fault, not just Wanda. I think there are enough factors to mitigate Wanda not being alone in House of M.

    That’s if I were a lawyer.
    Wanda had been made temporarily to forget about her kids. She had remembered sometime later and dealt with the loss. That was 15 years before Disassembled. Jan didn't cause that. That was Bendis not reading the whole story.
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