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    Default Franklin being the most poweful mutant ever?



    this was recently established as canon by marvel, but...... for a long time wasn't it Jean Grey or was it always Franklin

    is Franklin even considered a mutant (his powers come from cosmic radiation via parents right? not the x-gene)?

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    He's a mutant and on the Omega Level list.

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    Exactly.

    Mutants see Franklin as one of them.

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    Well, Jean probably won't live enough to see the hot death of the universe like Franklin did, for starters.

    Also the entire Marvel universe as it exists today is Franklin's creation... basically, he's God.

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    It is hard to say who is the most powerful mutant, but I would say that Franklin is definitely a contender. According to Hickman's script (you can find it for House of X 1 ) the omega mutants are the most powerful mutants on earth. So Jean, Storm, Magneto, Iceman and the rest are among the most powerful mutants due to their omega power.

    Franklin is a mutant but it is hinted that his powers may allow him to access the godpower but that story is still in process so we are not sure yet what it means (if anything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    He's a mutant and on the Omega Level list.

    I wonder what might scare them more...Franklin's alliance to Humans or Legion's being unknown.

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    Jean deserves

    He went from universal to multiversal lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    I wonder what might scare them more...Franklin's alliance to Humans or Legion's being unknown.
    Legion's wardrobe choices.

    Mister M is the one that scares me most. But as others mentioned, Franklin's abilities and their sources are still developing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nandes View Post
    Well, Jean probably won't live enough to see the hot death of the universe like Franklin did, for starters.

    Also the entire Marvel universe as it exists today is Franklin's creation... basically, he's God.
    In the story of CC, the phoenix is responsible for keeping the universe in circulation. The universe itself is a living thing, and the phoenix is a collection of all living things.

    CC has said he envisions the x-men ending with jean coming back to life at the end of the universe, kissing wolverine, and then lighting up the big bang to create a new universe.

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    I think X editorial now tends to describe every Omega level mutant as one of the most powerful mutants on the planet...

    I mean, they might not even tell you that Franklin or Jean is more powerful than Iceman or Elixir.
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    Franklin has always been one of (if not the) most powerful things inexistance.

    In the possible future shown in Earth X, he becomes Galactus. In another future Galactus becomes Franklin's herald.

    is Franklin even considered a mutant (his powers come from cosmic radiation via parents right? not the x-gene)?
    I don't see how that's different from Beast, who's a mutant because his parents were exposed to radiation.

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    Franklin has the X-Gene.


    I think Franklin has been the uncontested #1 for, hmm, at least the last 20 years?

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    I wonder why Prof X is not an omega level whereas Jean is.

    Prof X was more powerful than Jean.

    Shouldn't Jean be an omega for telekinesis and not telepathy?

    Telepathy should be Prof X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    I wonder why Prof X is not an omega level whereas Jean is.

    Prof X was more powerful than Jean.

    Shouldn't Jean be an omega for telekinesis and not telepathy?

    Telepathy should be Prof X.
    QQ is also an Omega level TP.

    I think when Jean has the same experience and skills as professor X, she must be more powerful than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    I wonder why Prof X is not an omega level whereas Jean is.

    Prof X was more powerful than Jean.

    Shouldn't Jean be an omega for telekinesis and not telepathy?

    Telepathy should be Prof X.
    Jean has consistently been referred to as a "world class" telepath, and throughout the 80's and 90's she was the "second most powerful" on the planet around the 00's she started being referred to interchangeably as the "strongest" telepath on the planet. By NXM, she was consistently referred to as or stronger than Xavier, after her death is where things got a little muddy, but currently she's moving back into that role.

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