Why do a lot of X-Men want them to be in their separate universe from the MCU/

[frankyspaceout]

When I am on various places on the internet and even in person a lot of X-Men fans I encounter want them separate from the MCU. Why such reason for such?

[CRaymond]

The social and political climate that is necessary for an X-Men context makes the Avengers out to be hypocritical upholders of an unjust status quo. In a world with X-Men, the Avengers are villains.

[Metal Sphere]

The social and political climate that is necessary for an X-Men context makes the Avengers out to be hypocritical upholders of an unjust status quo. In a world with X-Men, the Avengers are villains.

Nailed it. The Avengers and other superhero groups in the Marvel universe are the traditional superhero. They fight to maintain the peace and preserve the status quo. They fight for little Tyrone to have safe schools to go to, for old Sally to cross the street without fear of being slaughtered by demons, they fight for the Earth's sovereignty from lifeforms that would see humans driven extinct or subjugated.

The X-Men's entire premise is that the entire world is a hateful place. The world as it is for mutants is awful and so they seek to destroy the status quo. As CRaymond just says, having them exist in the same universe as the rest of the MU makes genuinely good characters in other franchises look like callous monsters.\

Why do we need them to interact with other heroes?
The X-Men are full of stories ripe for translation.
It is the other heroes who constantly need to gate crash our world that is the problem.

They're in a shared universe, so it makes sense that the rest of the UNIVERSE would intrude into the X-Men bubble. It gets really weird when a franchise never interacts with anything else, despite taking place on the same Earth at the same time, often referencing the same global events.

[houndsofluv]

I'm fine with x-men in the mcu but I feel like any attempts to incorporate them late-stage will be difficult to execute. they'll probably end up feeling very tacked-on
bu then again im not exactly invested in the mcu . as long as they give us good content im not too worried about the interconnectivity

[Ferro]

Mostly because many years of x-stories and characthers being shared willy nilly to support everyone and their mothers in "the shared universe" yet none of that extends towards the x-verse, It has never benefited the x-men
Personally id rather have them in their own universe, and have the stand in;s for the avengers/fantastic four to be proper villains and antagonists, and considering the sheer number of possible viable characthers and team combinations, it would probably be healthy for the franchise

[Ferro]

oh it's about the mcu, nvm still applies

[anyajenkins]

Mostly because many years of x-stories and characthers being shared willy nilly to support everyone and their mothers in "the shared universe" yet none of that extends towards the x-verse, It has never benefited the x-men
Personally id rather have them in their own universe, and have the stand in;s for the avengers/fantastic four to be proper villains and antagonists, and considering the sheer number of possible viable characthers and team combinations, it would probably be healthy for the franchise

Pretty much that there. In the MCU the human hate would likely be toned down and the avengers would be more helpful. A fair amount of people don’t really want that, and want the mutants to be the only real heros.

[LordMikel]

I'm fine with x-men in the mcu but I feel like any attempts to incorporate them late-stage will be difficult to execute. they'll probably end up feeling very tacked-on
bu then again im not exactly invested in the mcu . as long as they give us good content im not too worried about the interconnectivity

I agree with this point more than anything else.

Can you imagine, "Yes, the X-Men have been around for years, they considered helping during Thanos, but decided it would be better to stay unknown for the time being."

[LordMikel]

Now here might be one way to incorporate them. Because of the Thanos thing, that is what caused the XGene. So X-men movie would be 20 years after the last Avengers movie. Which could give an entirely different landscape.

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

Because I literally do not care about the Avengers, nor what other people are hyped about. When the movies are all the rage, I still don't care. When writers want me to be all "grrrrr" about Scarlet Witch, I still...don't care. For the most part, they have always been boring and remain borin. Also, the fewer resources Disney is spending on Avengers etc, the more they can put into X-Men. I don't need a single minute of my X-Men movie promoting Captain Flag or whoever.

Spider-Man is kinda cool though.

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[From The Shadows]

I don't. I love them being a part of the greater Marvel mythos.

[Gripstir]

Because the X-men are stars in their own right. They will need to be toned down to not overshadow the cosmic players.

[JasmineW]

Why do we need them to interact with other heroes?
The X-Men are full of stories ripe for translation.
It is the other heroes who constantly need to gate crash our world that is the problem.

[Outburstz]

They try to attach logic to illogical hate.

"Oh how can people like the Avengers or other super powered beings but hate the mutants."

Which is the whole point of the X-men and the mutants in general is to be hated and feared by people. Some folks just don't understand that.