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    Default The Worst Ideas in Comics

    Usually companies (Marvel & DC) will have these wacky good and bad ideas. Usually a terrible idea is one that a writer pitches and no one seems to step in and go ; ok this is shit. And it gets published for the world and we suffer. Both companies have the last 40+ years have had terrible crap ideas that have seen print. To start things off with this thread...and point at each company comically...







    DC Comics in the late 1980's was a company trying to throw what they could out to see what would stick after the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover. A lot was good of course as we saw but there was some obvious crap. I mean some very bad crap that they did that really makes no sense on what they originally planned as a series and what was published instead.

    Nothing sums up bad like The Wanderers. A series that focused on characters who were created back in 1968 by Jim Shooter in Adventure Comics 375#. These characters were actually heroes before the Legion of Super-Heroes formed and would become friends with them after the 1st appearance. They even appeared a couple times after it on occasion. But by the Post Crisis they were mostly a forgotten team.

    Until.....(as seen above)

    Their leader was killed as they were , but they were brought back as clones and investigated why they were killed in the 1st place. The original artist Steve Dillion redesigned their costumes and soon enough he was replaced and the costumes were redesigned again by the next artist shown. But what made The Wanderers terrible was an issue where one of the characters who could morph and change to animals (Aviax) designed to sex a dinosaur to save a species.



    This was actually as linked came from CBR in a column years ago...

    https://www.cbr.com/i-love-ya-but-yo...th-a-dinosaur/

    The entire series is utterly forgettable as are the characters. Except for the character deciding to go sex a dinosaur in a terrible plot. After 13 episodes the Wanderers was cancelled as they had found out who killed them and the series has faded from memory. Except ya know...this.





    This won't go well I'm sure...


    Marvel to me has had some brilliant comics the last decade. The whole Secret Empire arc with an evil Captain America , the creation of Ms. Marvel and the current work done on X-Men. But its time to admit a terrible idea and call it a terrible idea.

    The New Warriors has been a concept that worked in the 1990's for a 75 issue run (it ran outta steam after #50 as some claim and limped to an ending) but since has had numerous reboots that failed. There was a planned TV series set for Freeform but after a pilot wasn't picked up in 2017 and Marvel couldn't find a place to air it the show was considered dead in 2019.

    So after so many failed reboots we get this latest attempt and man ...oh man. It makes what DC did with New Guardians in the 1980's look like the greatest work ever. In fact the characters are pitched in this video as it starts off detailing how good the 1990s series was . Then it nosedives quick...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PCWUCv1rnU

    Before folks jump in and accuse me of hating or anything ; I love comics and have read for years. I can get behind 99% of what is out there. It shouldn't excuse bad ideas even now. Sorry if this upsets people.


    (Now a character with snow related powers who can hurt people with deadly snowflakes ...ok that is kinda cool , just with this concept...not so much)
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    This was pretty damn bad. Thank god it didnt last.

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    During Onslaught I learnt about Xavier's crush on jean Grey and thought it was awful back then, then I discovered Waid wasn't making that up. It goes back to the 60's! Never looked at Xavier the same after that.

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    On the DC Side I thought this was pretty bad.

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    Punisher as an angel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    Punisher as an angel.
    Or Frank undergoing plastic surgery after his face gets messed up in a fight with Jigsaw and ends up a black man.
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    Sticking to the Punisher theme how about this.

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    One More Day, the mother of all bad ideas. Followed by Sins Past.

    For a very recent one, the retcon of the FF origin (no spoilers) in the latest issues.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    One More Day, the mother of all bad ideas. Followed by Sins Past.

    For a very recent one, the retcon of the FF origin (no spoilers) in the latest issues.
    Just read that. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    One More Day, the mother of all bad ideas. Followed by Sins Past.

    For a very recent one, the retcon of the FF origin (no spoilers) in the latest issues.
    I am not up on the current stuff yet. What is it that is making everyone so mad?
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    The new NEW WARRIORS...:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    One More Day, the mother of all bad ideas. Followed by Sins Past.

    For a very recent one, the retcon of the FF origin (no spoilers) in the latest issues.
    It was kind of hard to not touch an origine so deeply routed in the Cold War space race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    It was kind of hard to not touch an origine so deeply routed in the Cold War space race.
    Touch is one thing. But adding a completely unnecessary and stupid layer is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I am not up on the current stuff yet. What is it that is making everyone so mad?
    spoilers:
    The FF go to the planet they originally were trying to get to in FF #1. It turns out that they didn't get blasted with Cosmic Rays because Reed screwed up, but the leader of that Planet, thinking the FF was an invasion, bombarded the ship with so much Cosmic Rays, that it overwhelmed the shields. So after 60 years, Reed doesn't have any responsibility for the FF. No guilt over Ben. Nothing. Really stupid retcon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    spoilers:
    The FF go to the planet they originally were trying to get to in FF #1. It turns out that they didn't get blasted with Cosmic Rays because Reed screwed up, but the leader of that Planet, thinking the FF was an invasion, bombarded the ship with so much Cosmic Rays, that it overwhelmed the shields. So after 60 years, Reed doesn't have any responsibility for the FF. No guilt over Ben. Nothing. Really stupid retcon.
    end of spoilers
    Thanks for the info. That is dumb as Hell.
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