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    So basically -- this series has a good premise - Fantastic Four object to X-Men recruiting Franklin - that's being executed poorly.

    Hickman really should have been overseeing the direction of this mini from the get-go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAS View Post
    So basically -- this series has a good premise - Fantastic Four object to X-Men recruiting Franklin - that's being executed poorly.

    Hickman really should have been overseeing the direction of this mini from the get-go.
    Basically. I mean a better premise of their being an issue between the two groups is that Franklin and company go to Krakoa at the behest of Xavier to learn all their is. Or at least what they are allowed to. At some point Doom has figured out a way to modify the gate travel, and so Valeria, Franklin, and Kitty get pulled away to Doom's island. Now that they haven't come back, Sue has a right to question if he's being held on Krakoa. Arguments and powers flare, but they realize someone else is at fault. Story continues, in the end Franklin becomes Persephone-esque: is allowed to live with his family and Krakoa at his choosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAS View Post
    So basically -- this series has a good premise - Fantastic Four object to X-Men recruiting Franklin - that's being executed poorly.

    Hickman really should have been overseeing the direction of this mini from the get-go.
    I think he and Zdarsky's pretty tight so they probably did talk a few things over, at least enough so that nothing here will interfere with Hickman's plotting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askani's Flame View Post
    Basically. I mean a better premise of their being an issue between the two groups is that Franklin and company go to Krakoa at the behest of Xavier to learn all their is. Or at least what they are allowed to. At some point Doom has figured out a way to modify the gate travel, and so Valeria, Franklin, and Kitty get pulled away to Doom's island. Now that they haven't come back, Sue has a right to question if he's being held on Krakoa. Arguments and powers flare, but they realize someone else is at fault. Story continues, in the end Franklin becomes Persephone-esque: is allowed to live with his family and Krakoa at his choosing.
    When this ends, I'm going to pretend in my head that this is what actually happened.

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    I been saying for the longest their was absolutely no need to dedicate a whole Mini series, to the false god, pretender, and fraud Franklin ultimately rejecting Krakoa and getting his DNA snatched, all this shit could have been settled in 1 issue of X-Men but no. Now we got this stupid ass ride in the Bull Shit Merry Go Round with every character taking turns of making asses out of themselves. 4 what!?!?! None of this matters!
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    Yes. The mutant that recreated 616 is a false god.
    "Cable was right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    I just want a ban of any non mutant crossovers after this, no more free promo to the remains of flop proprieties in the marvel universe, unless its completly work on and by the x-office.
    You want that now? This shit should've stopped after Onslaught.

    Really, if the X-Men/FF do crossover, then it should be like Days of Future Present. Now that is a beautiful story. I wish they'd release the Epic with it soon because I'd rather not get the FF epic that has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Yes, Creeps you hear right. They are also the ones who like to ignore government laws and like to assault people in their house for no apparent reason.

    Yes, the FF are Creeps too.
    If it wasn't for Reed the X-Men.... and everyone else for that matter...wouldn't even have the multiverse back again. Doom saved it but Reed is doing a better job at recreating and restoring it. So send your checks to Reed for bringing things back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Yes. The mutant that recreated 616 is a false god.
    Yeah but so are most of the mutants who preach godhood. Molecule man and Reed did most of the heavy lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    If it wasn't for Reed the X-Men.... and everyone else for that matter...wouldn't even have the multiverse back again. Doom saved it but Reed is doing a better job at recreating and restoring it. So send your checks to Reed for bringing things back to normal.
    If it weren't for Reed, that whole situation never would've even happened in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    If it wasn't for Reed the X-Men.... and everyone else for that matter...wouldn't even have the multiverse back again. Doom saved it but Reed is doing a better job at recreating and restoring it. So send your checks to Reed for bringing things back to normal.
    So what, now they can do whatever they want? Every hero and most X-Men have saved the universe or Earth once in their lives, can they go around and invade countries for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Yeah but so are most of the mutants who preach godhood. Molecule man and Reed did most of the heavy lifting.
    ???

    When has Franklin ever preached godhood?

    The most that kid preaches about is how he's not a baby any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexelhand View Post
    If it weren't for Reed, that whole situation never would've even happened in the first place.
    ??? The Beyonders and the Builders were happening regardless of anything people on Earth were doing. Hickman made that very clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    If it wasn't for Reed the X-Men.... and everyone else for that matter...wouldn't even have the multiverse back again. Doom saved it but Reed is doing a better job at recreating and restoring it. So send your checks to Reed for bringing things back to normal.
    So saving the Universe gives you a pass from being a Creep and Asshole to your family and Friends and robbing your own son of his own decision making? WOW some Hero Reed is.

    Yeah, he's still a Creep. Send those Bounced Checks back to him please for me. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    ???

    When has Franklin ever preached godhood?

    The most that kid preaches about is how he's not a baby any more.
    He literally harps about being a god all the time over in Slotts fantastic 4. Well at least before every universe he "created" turned to nothing but dust in the stars!!! Puny God.....

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