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[Tycon]

of course....

oooooh **** chucky got hit by the scene-transitioning caption, it's fuckin over he just took the haymaker and let vicky drop the mic on im

Ouchie oowies

arent the X-books the same but from the other side? Seems like you are fine with the X-books being critical with all the MU but in the moment the situation reverse its not funny

No. Did you not find Mr. Fantastic reasonable in House of X #1?? The X-Books were in an incestuous cycle of self hatred for decades. They literally demonized their closest friend and long-time leader because "he" destroyed a cloud that drove their species to the brink of extinction. And the stuff they do call everyone out on is 100% warranted. Like the Emma/Ms Marvel scene, especially because it was right after there was a school shooting organized by the Purifiers, another anti-mutant hate group that the Avengers didn't do **** about.

[LordUltimus]

Sue called out Scott in HoX #1, did you find her reasonable?

[Ferro]

"doom is right because xavier didnt say anything back, totaly not because the scene changed at a specific moment to quiet any actually interesting back and forth"
Dont be delusional, exactly what tycon said was gonna happen, happened.
The thing calls krakoa genosha, storm just looks.
Sue says all that she said. she breaks the transmission before any talk back.
And now the page conveniently changes with doom having the final word, camon now

[Iron Maiden]

arent the X-books the same but from the other side? Seems like you are fine with the X-books being critical with all the MU but in the moment the situation reverse its not funny

Very true. I have to go back to when all the X-Men gave the Avengers, FF etc crap because they didn't help bury the dead on Genosha. Well, the writer didn't bother to add them to the story. Typically you would see them make a wallpaper appearance just to show they were there, like in some of those 9/11 books where a mix of characters appeared.

[Iron Maiden]

"doom is right because xavier didnt say anything back, totaly not because the scene changed at a specific moment to quiet any actually interesting back and forth"
Dont be delusional, exactly what tycon said was gonna happen, happened.
The thing calls krakoa genosha, storm just looks.
Sue says all that she said. she breaks the transmission before any talk back.
And now the page conveniently changes with doom having the final word, camon now

I have to wonder if this is all deliberate. I still think Hickman is setting the X-Men up for a fall from grace and maybe Chip is pitching in here

[Tycon]

Sue called out Scott in HoX #1, did you find her reasonable?

She... didn't? But either way, that's exactly my point. The X-Books don't treat the Avengers/FF/Champions/etc/etc the way those offices treat the X-Men.

[Ferro]

I have to wonder if this is all deliberate. I still think Hickman is setting the X-Men up for a fall from grace and maybe Chip is pitching in here

You think doom has any morale to speak on anyone and you have admited before you don't care abou the x-men, I very much don't care and the fact this title is under non x-men editorial tells me no one in the x-office does either.
A fall from grace would require mutants to have any left in the eyes of the remaining superhero community, thye havent ever since utopia when they stoped taking any crap

[hulkling]

of course....



Ouchie oowies



No. Did you not find Mr. Fantastic reasonable in House of X #1?? The X-Books were in an incestuous cycle of self hatred for decades. They literally demonized their closest friend and long-time leader because "he" destroyed a cloud that drove their species to the brink of extinction. And the stuff they do call everyone out on is 100% warranted. Like the Emma/Ms Marvel scene, especially because it was right after there was a school shooting organized by the Purifiers, another anti-mutant hate group that the Avengers didn't do **** about.

well thats because Hickman loves the FF more than any other team in marvel. Sure , he likes the X-men but he would never write something that would make the FF look bad against the X-men. Probably thats the reason why he allowed this mini.

The avengers in School Shootings? really ? thats job for normal cops or street heroes. By that logic where were the X-men after the shooting that almost kill Goldballs ( aka Egg) in the Miles Morales series? The mutants are minority in the MU , less than the 1% , not the only minority with problems and have their own team, the mutants should learn that the whole world doestn revolve around them. If the avengers help them fine , if not well the X-men take care of the 1% of the people , the avengers have to take care of the other 99%

[LordUltimus]

She... didn't? But either way, that's exactly my point. The X-Books don't treat the Avengers/FF/Champions/etc/etc the way those offices treat the X-Men.

Notice how Scott interupts her midsentence.

[Ferro]

well thats because Hickman loves the FF more than any other team in marvel. Sure , he likes the X-men but he would never write something that would make the FF look bad against the X-men. Probably thats the reason why he allowed this mini.

The avengers in School Shootings? really ? thats job for normal cops or street heroes. By that logic where were the X-men after the shooting that almost kill Goldballs ( aka Egg) in the Miles Morales series? The mutants are minority in the MU , less than the 1% , not the only minority with problems and have their own team, the mutants should learn that the whole world doestn revolve around them. If the avengers help them fine , if not well the X-men take care of the 1% of the people , the avengers have to take care of the other 99%

so what you are also saying that mutants are an x-men issue, hence krakoa is their new way of taking care of what is, aparently, their exclusive issue in a productive way!
nice, glad to know the avengers will support the x-men taking care of their issue in a more effective fashion!

[Ferro]

Notice how Scott interupts her midsentence.

I didnt know house of x was titled house of x AND 4, we expect more from this mini that was promoted as a crossover, the fantastic four were treated with respect in those pages the mutants havent gotten for a decade or more

[Gray Lensman]

Notice how Scott interupts her midsentence.

You pause too long you are inviting the other person to speak, and Susan's "but..." seems to convey her pausing because she doesn't quite know what to say.

[Tycon]

Notice how Scott interupts her midsentence.

She asked a question and the two aren’t in an argument. The two examples aren’t really comparable.

Regardless, you aren’t getting the point. This type of nuance from Susan isn’t unfounded and it’s great writing to have very reasonable concerns brought up from the F4 given what the mutants are doing. The problem is that same nuance isn’t extended to the mutants when the POV is shifted to the other side.

[Ferro]

She asked a question and the two aren’t in an argument. The two examples aren’t really comparable.

Regardless, you aren’t getting the point. This type of nuance from Susan isn’t unfounded and it’s great writing to have very reasonable concerns brought up from the F4 given what the mutants are doing. The problem is that same nuance isn’t extended to the mutants when the POV is shifted to the other side.

mutants basicaly get scolded by the fantastic four and freaking doom witout speaking up agaist it, its finger wagging at its most anoying

[Iron Maiden]

I find it ironic that Doom gave white guy Charles some of their own medicine with that little speech. People tend to forget that Doom is a Roma, a very oppressed RW minority, as opposed to an imaginary one like the mutants.