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    The King Fears NO ONE! Triniking1234's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpideyClone View Post
    I agree. The two volumes of Superior and everything in-between was the most growth the character had since the clone saga and web of death.
    That was a fun ride. They could've left him as Tolliver for a while until a main book writer wanted to do something with it.
    I'm surprised Gage only gets side-Spidey books but never the main one. Is he not interested? Spidey/FF is my favourite from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    That was a fun ride. They could've left him as Tolliver for a while until a main book writer wanted to do something with it.
    I'm surprised Gage only gets side-Spidey books but never the main one. Is he not interested? Spidey/FF is my favourite from him.
    I also liked that one, along with his X-Men/Spider-Man.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    I randomly scored a rare Funko Pop Superior Octopus today for under $15.00. I could not believe my luck. I've been looking for this little guy for months now. For some context, Funko Pop Superior Octopus is trending around $50.00 on Eaby/Amazon -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    I randomly scored a rare Funko Pop Superior Octopus today for under $15.00. I could not believe my luck. I've been looking for this little guy for months now. For some context, Funko Pop Superior Octopus is tending around $50.00 on Eaby/Amazon -

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    That's cool. I also liked how this look was depicted in Marvel Future Fight.

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    So I don't know if you guys follow Christopher Cantwell's Doctor Doom series.

    But Doctor Doom #7 just dropped and its final panel:

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    Has Dr. Octopus serving World Minister Doom, as he calls it, on a mission in outer space. So Otto post-Superior, is a Doom lackey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    So I don't know if you guys follow Christopher Cantwell's Doctor Doom series.

    But Doctor Doom #7 just dropped and its final panel:

    spoilers:
    Has Dr. Octopus serving World Minister Doom, as he calls it, on a mission in outer space. So Otto post-Superior, is a Doom lackey
    end of spoilers
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    Otto is no one's lackey, so he's got to be getting something out of it.
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    The Superior One Celgress's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
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    Otto is no one's lackey, so he's got to be getting something out of it.
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    I sincerely hope so, otherwise, I'll be extremely disappointed but not surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    So I don't know if you guys follow Christopher Cantwell's Doctor Doom series.

    But Doctor Doom #7 just dropped and its final panel:

    spoilers:
    Has Dr. Octopus serving World Minister Doom, as he calls it, on a mission in outer space. So Otto post-Superior, is a Doom lackey
    end of spoilers
    Well... that sure sounds disappointing. I wish, they had done something unique and interesting with Superior... instead they just erased his memories of being Peter (the sacrifice-part in Goblin Nation), and now it's classic Ock again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzika_Sowa View Post
    Well... that sure sounds disappointing. I wish, they had done something unique and interesting with Superior... instead they just erased his memories of being Peter (the sacrifice-part in Goblin Nation), and now it's classic Ock again.
    And people wonder why I like Manga better than mainstream American Comic Books. If Dragon Ball, for example, was a Marvel/DC property once full-on villainous character such as Tien, Piccolo (my personal favorite), Vegeta (a prime example of an effective anti-hero) & Frieza (awhile he has grown one could argue Frieza is still close to being a true villain) would all suffer from arrested character development.
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    I kinda agree with You, but as much as I love Dragon Ball, since Super came out... the story and character development just went down. Only Vegeta's character is blooming, others... not so much.
    But yeah, the yearly BIG STORY THAT HAPPENS AND NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME ANYMORE in American comics is annoying, because almost every time it just reverts to status quo. The deaths are undone, the stories are retconned... i suppose that's just how this medium works.
    I'm just trying to look at each writers run like a "standalone story" and list things that I like about it, and dont like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzika_Sowa View Post
    I kinda agree with You, but as much as I love Dragon Ball, since Super came out... the story and character development just went down. Only Vegeta's character is blooming, others... not so much....
    Granted, and, yeah, I'm not the biggest Super fan I'm more a fan of Z & the original series (for this very reason) honestly. That said, I did like the Goku Black Arc up until its less than satisfactory conclusion. But, hey, at least, unlike American Mainstream Comics, the past character development hasn't been magically undone yet (Peter, Otto, exact, I'm looking at you).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    And people wonder why I like Manga better than mainstream American Comic Books. If Dragon Ball, for example, was a Marvel/DC property once full-on villainous character such as Tien, Piccolo (my personal favorite), Vegeta (a prime example of an effective anti-hero) & Frieza (awhile he has grown one could argue Frieza is still close to being a true villain) would all suffer from arrested character development.
    Are you serious or are you not counting Super (which I honestly wouldn’t blame you for.)?


    Edit: didn’t see your later post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzika_Sowa View Post
    Well... that sure sounds disappointing. I wish, they had done something unique and interesting with Superior... instead they just erased his memories of being Peter (the sacrifice-part in Goblin Nation), and now it's classic Ock again.
    Yeah, after everything he went through as SSM, it was very disappointing to have him go back to the old status quo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Granted, and, yeah, I'm not the biggest Super fan I'm more a fan of Z & the original series (for this very reason) honestly. That said, I did like the Goku Black Arc up until its less than satisfactory conclusion. But, hey, at least, unlike American Mainstream Comics, the past character development hasn't been magically undone yet (Peter, Otto, exact, I'm looking at you).
    this right here I come from reading manga to reading comics in 2016 so I find it weird how Peter is doing the same stuff he has been doing since the 80s and fans are okay with it. Like how the whole Parker Industries stuff happen so many fans were against it like they rather have him continue struggling for money in his everday life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    this right here I come from reading manga to reading comics in 2016 so I find it weird how Peter is doing the same stuff he has been doing since the 80s and fans are okay with it. Like how the whole Parker Industries stuff happen so many fans were against it like they rather have him continue struggling for money in his everday life.
    I'm on the opposite side of the line from you. I grew up with comics. I don't understand the people that talk about how they like a character and then say they wish the character would turn into something else. As far as manga goes, there's a number of series I've read for a while and dropped because it gradually turned intoa different series than the one I had originally been interested in.

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