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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    Why do you assume TENET will get bad word of mouth?
    Cutting the ending of a blockbuster would never get a good review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GozertheGozarian View Post
    Cutting the ending of a blockbuster would never get a good review.
    Are you referring to Inception?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GozertheGozarian View Post
    Cutting the ending of a blockbuster would never get a good review.
    But in my admittedly goofy plan, the studio would be totally open about the fact that this time was being cut from the movie for 1) to have people in theatres for a shorter period and 2) to withhold the ending so no one would know how it ends until it's possible for more people to see it and 3) to increase the mystery and sense of anticipation for the movie when it could finally be seen in wide release and everyone could see how it ends. All critics would know that beforehand. Also, critics could have a chance of being one of the lucky few who got to see the full movie in the limited "IMAX®" screenings--but they would only be able to give vague responses, the contract would prevent them from revealing how it ends. :D

    When serials used to be released in theatres, they weren't panned after the first reel. You had to go see them each week to find out eventually how they end.

    Anyway, I think that any Nolan movie is just as interesting in the four fifths before the ending as it is in the final fifth of the movie. And I'd say that some Nolan movies might be improved by chopping off the final fifth, while others might suffer and others not be changed at all. MEMENTO might have suffered for missing the final fifth--but the movie you had could be just as entertaining, although our feeling about the main character would have remained more sympathetic. THE DARK KNIGHT RISES would be a better movie if you just chopped off that final fifth. I would like THE PRESTIGE a lot more if it didn't have the final fifth of the movie in it. And INCEPTION would be the same movie, just with less of all that confusing stuff that refuses to give any clear answers. :P

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    Hollywood Is Finally Admitting That the U.S. Is a Lost Cause

    Finally, there’s some good news for Hollywood: Yesterday, Warner Bros. announced that Christopher Nolan’s highly anticipated action thriller, Tenet, will debut next month following multiple delays. As the pandemic has shut down cinemas across the globe, Tenet has been widely regarded as the film that could revive a depressed theater industry, and now it has its chance. Starting August 26, the movie will screen in more than 70 countries, including South Korea, Australia, Canada, and much of Europe. But not the United States. Instead, Tenet will arrive in “select” American cities two weeks later, in time for Labor Day—and given the country’s ever-growing coronavirus caseload, that “select” list is likely to be very, very short.
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    AMC Theatres, Universal Collapsing Theatrical Window to 17 Days in Unprecedented Pactl
    The studio will have the option of making any of its titles, as well as films from Focus Features, available premium VOD after just three weekends of play in cinemas.

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    This is a huge win for consumers and for Universal. People gave Universal a lot of crap and said they were putting themselves in a bad situation, but it was always a negotiation tactic. Now this is just the first domino, expect other studios to renegotiate as well. Disney might go a little longer and then straight to Disney+ (rather than VOD).

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    Universal has the right idea. The end of megaplexes would be such a welcomed relief. Take INVISIBLE MAN, that wouldn't have done anywhere near as well in an AMC as it did on VOD. The potential audience for a flick like that are much more likely to rent it on a random Tuesday night in, than go stand in a dirty mall.

    Smaller art house cinemas, and more niche theatres will always find a way to remain. Maybe they'll even do better.
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    Good. There's no reason to expect the rest of the world to wait for us to get our **** together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    AMC Theatres, Universal Collapsing Theatrical Window to 17 Days in Unprecedented Pactl
    The studio will have the option of making any of its titles, as well as films from Focus Features, available premium VOD after just three weekends of play in cinemas.
    Sound like the theaters has conceded the party is over.

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    The deal is universal will give amc part of the vod sales and universal can release films after just three weekends. Trouble is for universals plan to work all the other movies chains and studios need to be on board.

    Not only are they not regel said "no chance in heck" (but they didn't use heck.) Not only that the other chains have said no also. The biggest chain in all europe has told amc "forget it" also. They also told universal if they ever break the window date that film is banned in all their chains WORLDWIDE! AMC deal is for amc america only by the way!

    All movie chains and even drive ins HATE amc now and are calling them "traiters" and "backstabbing".

    The movie studios are ticked also. Disney said none of their films will do this! It would kill all billion films. If films went to streaming movie studios in america would more or less stop with the big budget films. Studios would never survive on streaming money.

    So without regal amc and universal plan may never even happen. All amc did was make alot of enemies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    AMC Theatres, Universal Collapsing Theatrical Window to 17 Days in Unprecedented Pactl
    The studio will have the option of making any of its titles, as well as films from Focus Features, available premium VOD after just three weekends of play in cinemas.
    Wow. Game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Universal has the right idea. The end of megaplexes would be such a welcomed relief. Take INVISIBLE MAN, that wouldn't have done anywhere near as well in an AMC as it did on VOD. The potential audience for a flick like that are much more likely to rent it on a random Tuesday night in, than go stand in a dirty mall.

    Smaller art house cinemas, and more niche theatres will always find a way to remain. Maybe they'll even do better.
    Nothing will get me/family into a megaplex right now. Not even free tickets/soda/reclining seats. Hard nope. Bring on the VOD or see y 'all next year…maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Universal has the right idea. The end of megaplexes would be such a welcomed relief. Take INVISIBLE MAN, that wouldn't have done anywhere near as well in an AMC as it did on VOD. The potential audience for a flick like that are much more likely to rent it on a random Tuesday night in, than go stand in a dirty mall.
    Right, those movies are now competing with Netflix and Amazon and Apple movies that are released now on a weekly basis. Some of those are actually very good now. I would have gone to the theater to see Invisible Man but I think many people would just watch the latest buzz-worth Netflix film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    The deal is universal will give amc part of the vod sales and universal can release films after just three weekends. Trouble is for universals plan to work all the other movies chains and studios need to be on board.

    Not only are they not regel said "no chance in heck" (but they didn't use heck.) Not only that the other chains have said no also. The biggest chain in all europe has told amc "forget it" also. They also told universal if they ever break the window date that film is banned in all their chains WORLDWIDE! AMC deal is for amc america only by the way!

    All movie chains and even drive ins HATE amc now and are calling them "traiters" and "backstabbing".

    The movie studios are ticked also. Disney said none of their films will do this! It would kill all billion films. If films went to streaming movie studios in america would more or less stop with the big budget films. Studios would never survive on streaming money.

    So without regal amc and universal plan may never even happen. All amc did was make alot of enemies.
    People said this when Universal first announced they were going straight to VOD. Now look what happened. The other theaters will follow suit, they have to.

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    Why? Is universal the king of all movies? All the other chains and many of the big movies studios said no and oversea chains have said no. They even said universal films will be banned in their chains if universal breaks the rules with them. So why do they have to do what universal says? Universals need the other chains on board also. Regal and the biggest uk chain said "forget it" and disney is fighting it also!



    People said this when Universal first announced they were going straight to VOD. Now look what happened. The other theaters will follow suit, they have to.
    Yes they lost over a million in trolls 2 and had to pay all the streaming apps and toy companies with streaming change they made. They did better at the drive in showings. Universals spin that it was a huge hit was debunked days after they bragged about it. They lost money on it.

    Plus if this deal did get done universal would have to pay all the streaming apps and all movie chains at the same time with the change streaming films make. Universal would not be left with much.

    They did a studio talk with all the big heads before the virus and streaming only came up. They all said they CAN'T survive on streaming. If they went to streaming only kiss big budget films and big budget animated films goodbye.

    Or they will just move all the films overseas.

    Edit--It goes like this. If universal gets what they want and it's only three weekend. Family of four. "hey look the animated mario movie out! Let's go see it." "Wait it's on on vod in three weeks. Lets just skip it and wait."

    A family of four would be four tickets. Say it's $10 then that's $40. Plus drinks and food prices.

    VOD--it's $20 only. The family of four then invite a house full to watch! That's all money per person they would have made at the box office. Plus food and drink as well.

    So that studio lost most of it's money it would have got. That room of people could have been $100 and now it's only $20. You can kiss $billion films goodbye and it would kill the movies chains.


    Could this be the future in america? Yes. But if true you may never get a endgame like movie again or they wil just release them overseas.
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